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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army if the game

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is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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how you doing ah

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how you doing feed the black

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for the masses

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yeah man how you doing today's tuesday

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april 20th

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20 211 days into the new year only 254

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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a total undisclosed location

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but it's beautiful yes it is

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south

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far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kgra

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the planets i'm your host jimmy church

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i'm your host jimmy church what's

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing all right

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i gotta get all my stuff situated

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i'm ready what a great week we've got

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going on man last night john greenwald

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amazing show tonight aaron montgomery is

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here for the first time

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nothing better right

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there's nothing better than a first time

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guest first time callers first time

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love it love it when that happens and uh

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now check yeah okay that's coming in hot

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i'm coming in

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hot coming in hot i don't feel hot

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but i'm coming in hot all right

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all right yeah aaron montgomery is here

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tonight

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and uh multi-dimensional messenger

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uh her family for generations contact

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her contact

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and we've got a lot to discuss tonight

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with aaron now so we're probably

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um and we i do this with all first-time

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i've got to introduce them to the

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get so many different things out of the

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tonight with aaron

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just go with one subject and and do the

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dive but uh tonight aaron is with us for

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dr stephen greer is here and

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it's gonna be a brief drive-by but

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and then of course open lines all night

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long all right

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okay okay let's get this show cracking

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let's get a bunch of things out of the

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way one billy carson

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wants you to go and visit forbidden

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uh go and subscribe dude just gave away

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a car

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i'm watching the video of that flew in

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the winter

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picked the winner up in a rolls royce at

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and took the winner to the new car and

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they got to drive it home and that car

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go to forbidden knowledge dot tv right

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it's their one year anniversary and

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uh 30 days free 30 days free so go

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get signed up over at forbidden

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of billy's stuff links for it are over

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at jimmychurchradio.com but it's simple

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enough forbidden knowledge

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dot tv all right now crystal skulls

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i've got mine you need yours i want you

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to visit carolyn ford

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at einstein the crystalskull.com promo

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code is

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jimmy 10 off of your order all right so

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go and pick out one of her amazing

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skulls

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she has got this skull oh i want it

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so bad she just posted this picture

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one of the fader knots you can go and uh

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grab this but it's white

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just an absolutely gorgeous skull not

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for what it is

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but man do i feel like that thing is in

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my future

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you need to go to einstein the

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crystalskull.com

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and use the promo code jimmy all right

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is that it

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no that's not it but that's gorgeous

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that is gorgeous i saw this too as well

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i've got a baby einstein

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right over here and baby einsteins are

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they're of the you know the carved

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exactly like einstein and einstein's

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the baby einsteins come with their

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man i want that that crystal skull

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i want thank you for posting that casual

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but i'm waiting for one to call my name

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but that one right there blue halo oh

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perfect as a crystal skull can get right

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okay einstein the crystal skull.com all

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right and then there's ufo megacon

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coming up june 6th through the 12th

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in laughlin nevada i'm going to be there

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i'm going to be hosting i'm going to

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uh going to go out and host a sky watch

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uh going to hang out all week

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uh get over to jimmychurchradio.com and

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click on that banner

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and go and get your tickets fade or not

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4 20. oh happy 420 day everybody

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yeah i can smell you guys from here

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follow me on twitter right there and

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hashtag f2b is the sandbox

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you can come and hang out with all the

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spreaker's on fire

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let's bounce over to youtube i love good

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eight weeks dramatic crazy

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pressure relief there you go

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jim steinman big fan of jim

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jim steinman best known for writing and

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died yesterday in connecticut steinman

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best-selling album bad out of hell

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he also wrote and produced i do anything

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for love but i won't do

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that he also was the mind behind bonnie

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that's right jalil known for playing

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his partnering with 710 labs on his new

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today

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april 20th or surprise 4 20

287
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and includes variance of the strain

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called

289
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purple urkel

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happy 420 everybody let's get the show

291
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cracking our dead guy's birthday today

292
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george takai george takai today is 84

293
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years old

294
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jessica lange today is 72 american

295
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horror story she was great

296
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king kong remember that carmen

297
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electra today 49 years old

298
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front man old buddy of mine old friend

299
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old friend cal swann today

300
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is 58 years old of course the lead

301
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singer for lion

302
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that that first album uh dangerous

303
00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:47,279
attraction that first album of theirs

304
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uh one of the great rock albums in

305
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history

306
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um also sang for bad moon rising

307
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and uh doug aldrich happy birthday cal

308
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58 years old

309
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dream theater stickman mike portnoy

310
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today is 54. our dead guy's birthday

311
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today is

312
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luther vandross 1951 to 2005 died at the

313
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age of 54. luther was an in-demand

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background vocalist for

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several different artists including todd

316
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rundgren

317
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judy collins chaka khan bette midler

318
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diana ross david bowie benny king

319
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and donna summer as a solo artist he

320
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released his debut solo album

321
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never too much in 1981. hit songs

322
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include never too much here and now

323
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any love power of love love power

324
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i can make it better and for you to love

325
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during his career

326
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luther sold over 35 million records

327
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worldwide

328
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and received eight eight grammy awards

329
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luther died of a heart attack on july 1

330
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2005 at jfk

331
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medical center in edison new jersey

332
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at the age of 54.

333
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happy birthday luther but dad it's

334
00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:10,079
luther on this day in history

335
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otd 1999.

336
00:16:20,310 --> 00:16:17,600
dylan klebold 18 and eric harris

337
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17 killed 13 people in the shooting

338
00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:22,079
spree at columbine high school

339
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in littleton colorado just south of

340
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denver

341
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fader fact all right here you go

342
00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:35,040
fader fact in the 1930s

343
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okay write this down 420

344
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write this down in the 1930s

345
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metallic paints were invented for cars

346
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they were made with fish scales

347
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and it would take 40 000 herring

348
00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:58,240
to make just two pounds of

349
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paint do i need to repeat that

350
00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:04,959
just just absorb what i

351
00:17:12,549 --> 00:17:09,280
how expensive was that paint for a car

352
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,559
holy mackerel later they added aluminum

353
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chips and flakes and things that's how

354
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:16,839
they did but originally

355
00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:20,799
herring fish scales crazy

356
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tonight very special guest for the first

357
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time on fade to black aaron montgomery

358
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joins us

359
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and a multi-dimensional messenger we've

360
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got a lot to talk about tonight with

361
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aaron tomorrow night

362
00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:34,640
dr stephen greer is back with us and

363
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thursday it's another fader night but

364
00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:37,679
not just another fader night with open

365
00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:40,000
lines because richard dolan

366
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is going to join us uh for a segment or

367
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two

368
00:17:47,110 --> 00:17:45,520
and that'll be thursday night followed

369
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by open lines

370
00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:50,880
now it's time for me to hit this

371
00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:54,880
river moon coffee i love meatloaf man

372
00:18:01,990 --> 00:17:58,799
i love meatloaf too mashed potatoes but

373
00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:02,000
meatloaf bad out of hell i don't think

374
00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:03,679
it gets better

375
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:06,480
i really don't i don't i don't i don't

376
00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:09,120
man that was uh just

377
00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:12,840
man how many how many records did that

378
00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:20,789
river moonrivermoonwellness.com

379
00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:24,880
i like my coffee doc yeah i love the uh

380
00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:29,520
the uh promo code f2b blind

381
00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:31,760
15 off of your order today i love the

382
00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:33,840
meatloaf gifts

383
00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,799
yeah it's it's man i love meatloaf what

384
00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:38,480
was uh

385
00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:42,000
man what was his singer's name

386
00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,120
carla devito is that right i'm just

387
00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:47,039
going off a memory don't quote me

388
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,840
i could have that completely wrong but

389
00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:51,679
she was great

390
00:19:02,870 --> 00:18:54,640
man those are great videos great songs

391
00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:07,669
4 20. today

392
00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:16,150
yeah got that bag of weed over there i

393
00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:17,840
should have brought it over for the show

394
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:21,039
wasn't even thinking see there you go

395
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:22,080
but

396
00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:25,360
it's 4 20. i don't know how we got to

397
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:27,679
420 but we did and 420 is

398
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:30,960
is is is what it is today 420 today's 4

399
00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:32,400
20.

400
00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:36,400
and i posted on social media i said so

401
00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:39,840
i said hey it's 4 20.

402
00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:43,120
i'm gonna share a great pot story from

403
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:51,350
youth and

404
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,760
uh it's a it's a funny story now

405
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:57,520
it wasn't funny at the time of course it

406
00:20:02,549 --> 00:19:59,520
was pretty dramatic but

407
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,559
um when i when i said that i was gonna

408
00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:04,480
post the show today

409
00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:08,159
i tagged a few friends and one

410
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:11,200
that i tagged is part of the story his

411
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:13,120
name is bill white and i hope bill is

412
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:16,799
listening tonight as uh as would be

413
00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:18,799
everybody else that i tagged uh from

414
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:21,440
panama from the canal zone

415
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:24,080
and uh it's funny when uh i started the

416
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:24,720
show people

417
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:27,679
man jimmy didn't live in panama he

418
00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:29,440
didn't live how could he live in panama

419
00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:30,880
well i did

420
00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:32,880
and uh so i tagged a bunch of friends of

421
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:35,280
mine from the canal zone down there

422
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:36,640
and they're going to appreciate this

423
00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:42,789
and it's it kind of goes like this i was

424
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:44,000
15

425
00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:47,760
i'm down in panama and

426
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:51,919
it was my girlfriend kim's birthday

427
00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:56,000
i was a sophomore

428
00:21:03,750 --> 00:20:59,679
kim was a junior she was older than me

429
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:03,760
that's right and it was her birthday

430
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:06,799
and the plan was

431
00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:09,679
for me and my friends to all go to

432
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:12,080
downtown panama city

433
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:16,880
and get tattoos and uh

434
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:19,760
bill white who i just mentioned rocky

435
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:21,200
gibson

436
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:24,400
and eric powell it was those three

437
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:27,840
and uh oh oh

438
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:30,880
no it was those three i was

439
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:33,120
thinking craig talteval might have been

440
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:34,080
with us

441
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:37,200
but we ended up by craig's house

442
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:44,870
rocky gibson eric powell and myself

443
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,679
and uh and then after we get our tattoos

444
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,000
the plan was to head up to kim's house

445
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:52,080
for her birthday party sporting our new

446
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:53,039
panama inc

447
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:56,720
and this is the tattoo that i got

448
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:59,760
that night of this story that panama

449
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:00,240
tattoo

450
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:03,520
okay so um we go downtown

451
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,600
downtown panama city which is across the

452
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,679
street fourth of july avenue the canal

453
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:09,679
zone and you venture into panama city

454
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,320
and

455
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:13,440
uh it's crazy down there but anyway

456
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:16,720
so uh we go and

457
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:19,840
uh we get tattooed at least i believe

458
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:23,280
rocky and i got tattoos bill and eric

459
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,559
chickened out all right now bill if

460
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:28,320
you're listening right now and you

461
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:29,840
probably are

462
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,240
you can text me but i don't think i

463
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,320
don't think bill got tattooed

464
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,440
um eric powell turned white he chickened

465
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:39,200
out there was a little blood

466
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:42,640
he he didn't do it but anyway anyway so

467
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:44,880
that's not even this that's the setup to

468
00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:46,640
the story so

469
00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:49,760
we get our tattoos and we head back to

470
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,679
the canal zone

471
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:54,000
and we're heading over to kim's parents

472
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:55,120
house which was

473
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,960
up on ancon hill in the middle of the

474
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,320
canal zone

475
00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:00,320
uh there's this giant hill it's called

476
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,919
ancon hill sticks out of nowhere

477
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:03,360
everything else is flapping there's

478
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:04,799
ancon hill

479
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,840
and uh houses all over it there's a

480
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:09,440
hospital there and there's

481
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,559
defense stuff but it's mainly housing

482
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,559
all around the hill and on the back side

483
00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:16,400
of the hill so we cross

484
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:18,559
from panama city into the canal zone we

485
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,159
got to go around

486
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:23,039
to the other side of anacond hill to

487
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:23,600
head up

488
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:30,950
so uh this is what happened

489
00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:33,440
and it uh it's a long story i'm gonna

490
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:34,480
get all of this

491
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:37,840
in on the back side of vancon hill is a

492
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:41,039
is a path and the path is paved right

493
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:43,919
asphalt and it goes up through the

494
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:44,960
jungle

495
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,520
right and then at the top of the hill

496
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:49,200
there's a street

497
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:52,080
at the top of this path um through the

498
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:52,640
jungle

499
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:54,400
and then and then it continues then

500
00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:56,159
there's stairs

501
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,679
on the other side of the street it's no

502
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:59,279
longer a path and so you go up the

503
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:00,799
stairs and then

504
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:04,400
they end and at the next street the

505
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:05,679
streets you know are

506
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,840
switchbacks so anyway

507
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,919
we we go through the stairs and then we

508
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:14,480
cross the street and instead of

509
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:17,679
walking on the sidewalk and going up the

510
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:20,240
streets like this

511
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,600
we decide to cut through the jungle and

512
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:25,279
there's a path

513
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:27,279
and we're going to go up and kim's house

514
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,799
we can see and we can

515
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:31,120
hear the party and it's up there are

516
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,320
ways

517
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:34,559
and but this path thing through the

518
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:36,080
jungle will get us

519
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:38,720
right straight to kim's house instead of

520
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:39,120
you know

521
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:40,960
going blocks in each direction and

522
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:42,159
finally getting there

523
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:45,279
so we're walking through the jungle and

524
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,240
then we get

525
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:48,159
uh about halfway through and this is

526
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:49,440
where it gets really bizarre

527
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:53,279
uh quickly um we stopped to smoke some

528
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:54,880
weed

529
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:57,679
and so we stopping this path and

530
00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:59,600
somebody's firing up a joint we roll a

531
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:01,279
joint and i had a bag of weed

532
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,480
about this big and i said hey i'm gonna

533
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:06,559
go stash this

534
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:08,960
up here under a rock or whatever and

535
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:10,640
then we'll go up to the party

536
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:13,279
okay cool so i i break from the three

537
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:14,080
guys

538
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,840
and i go up the path not just a couple

539
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:17,600
of yards you know

540
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,640
and i bend over to put this

541
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,080
you know it's a bag of weed about this

542
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,240
big um

543
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:26,559
just hide it somewhere and as i as i

544
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:27,840
lean over to do this

545
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:30,480
this flashlight in the middle of the

546
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:31,600
jungle

547
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:35,039
clicks out of my face hey

548
00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:38,240
police i was like what and i look up

549
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:40,840
and there's a cop and he's back in the

550
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:42,080
junk

551
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:45,679
what and i yelled on my friends

552
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,720
it's the cops and we all take off

553
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,640
running we head the opposite direction

554
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:52,000
kim's house is up there we head in the

555
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:52,960
opposite direction

556
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,720
we are right now we are being chased by

557
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,559
what was turned out to be pretty

558
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:00,080
overweight cop

559
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:02,720
and you've got four 15 year old high

560
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,240
school kids

561
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:07,279
uh young men that can all run

562
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:10,559
and we are hauling and we're

563
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:14,320
heading down we we get out of the jungle

564
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:16,159
cross the street now we're going down

565
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:17,600
the stairs and

566
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:19,840
and and i turn around and look and the

567
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:21,600
cop is way back there i can see his

568
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:24,000
flashlight but he's coming after us

569
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,799
and i thought man over weed anyway so

570
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:28,240
we're running

571
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,760
get down to the bottom of the hill craig

572
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,600
taltaval who i thought was there

573
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:33,679
his house is over here alan shaw's house

574
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:34,880
another friend of ours

575
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,039
who was not there his house is there we

576
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,039
know they're parents

577
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:41,679
we get in between their two houses and

578
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,279
then we scatter

579
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,039
i run over and i hide underneath a

580
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:47,039
picnic table or behind a tree where a

581
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:48,559
picnic table is

582
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:51,679
um eric powell uh

583
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:54,880
runs towards the train station and two

584
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:55,679
other

585
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,880
uh uh you know we're behind trees and

586
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:00,720
we're looking to wait to see

587
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:03,760
for this cop to come out and as we're

588
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:04,720
waiting

589
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:08,080
now cop cars pull up

590
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:12,559
we're lit oh man so the handcuffs

591
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,600
and i'm like this is over weed you know

592
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:17,360
what's going on and they put us in these

593
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:18,720
cars they take us down

594
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:21,520
eric got caught in the train station

595
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they pull

596
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:24,640
eric out now they throw him in the car

597
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,200
with me

598
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:27,039
and eric is just yelling at the cop all

599
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the way down this is what you do

600
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:31,600
so they take us to the police station

601
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:32,559
the weed

602
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that i had up on the hill is

603
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stuffed in my underwear you know in that

604
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spot

605
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:42,320
i can't get rid i'm like stuck i'm in

606
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the this cop car i'm handcuffed

607
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they take us into the police station

608
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they sit us down and they take us in one

609
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:52,159
after another and they're interviewing

610
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us and we all tell them the same story

611
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:55,760
we were going up to uh kim's house for a

612
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birthday party

613
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,159
we went down to get tattoos uh jimmy and

614
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:02,000
rocky got tattoos bill

615
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:05,440
and and uh uh uh

616
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,559
bill and eric uh chickened out and we

617
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,919
tell the story

618
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,520
they all weren't the same but they were

619
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:13,679
close enough then the cops bring us

620
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:16,640
all in together now they've called all

621
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:18,320
of our parents

622
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,320
right that's the next thing and i'm

623
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:22,720
waiting for my dad to show up who didn't

624
00:28:29,909 --> 00:28:26,000
and uh they take us all in the room

625
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:29,919
and the cop this detective and i'm like

626
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,039
what is going on with this

627
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:36,240
right they they didn't ask about weed

628
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:38,080
they didn't ask about anything they

629
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,880
didn't search us they didn't do anything

630
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:42,799
they just handcuffed us and took us down

631
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:44,240
to the police station

632
00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:53,669
somebody up there had a gun

633
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,470
had a what you guys were up there you

634
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,720
were popping off shots in the jungle

635
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:00,399
just tell us who's got the gun where'd

636
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:02,720
you put the gun i said dude

637
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:05,919
we're up there smoking weed

638
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,000
no you weren't you were shooting a gun

639
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:10,000
we had reports of gunshots you guys were

640
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,720
in the jungle

641
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:12,720
our our officer was up there in the

642
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,559
jungle he heard the gunshots he found

643
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:17,440
you guys you guys have a gun no we don't

644
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:21,760
and uh and so then they pat us down

645
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:24,960
i've got the wheat pat us down nobody's

646
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:26,240
got a gun

647
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,600
they let us go we walk out of the police

648
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:30,799
station

649
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,120
onto the sidewalk down now we got to get

650
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:34,880
over to kim's birthday party which we're

651
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:35,360
like

652
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,320
two or three hours late for by the way

653
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,320
we're crossing the street

654
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,799
and i said hey guys we're late for the

655
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:48,789
but i still got the weed

656
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:52,320
we're like what i do man we were in the

657
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,640
plate

658
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:55,760
yes yes but i still got it come on let's

659
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:56,720
go

660
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:00,240
and that's my story

661
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:02,720
we crossed the street went back to the

662
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,679
same path

663
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:06,000
up the same thing on the way to kim's

664
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:06,799
house

665
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:09,600
through the jungle right there stopped

666
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,000
again

667
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,320
smoked a second time went up to the

668
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,080
party and got yelled at

669
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:17,120
uh for being late but i said hey

670
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:22,549
this is fade to black i am your host

671
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:24,559
jimmy church that's a true story

672
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:28,080
happy 420 everybody happy 4 20.

673
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,520
it's gonna be a great night on the show

674
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:31,600
tonight aaron montgomery joins us for

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the first time

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tomorrow night right here on fade to

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with a little visit a little drive-by

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from one richard bleepin dolan i'm your

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host jimmy church i'm going to take a

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quick break and i'll be right back with

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our guest

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aaron montgomery stay right there

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so

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you should too right now save 20

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off a full four week supply of delicious

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000 calories a day saving 20 helps too

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time to lose

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00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,390
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fade to black is not

786
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your father's radio show on the game

787
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changer radio network and

788
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kgra the planet

789
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:30,079
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

791
00:35:44,590 --> 00:35:37,240
what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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[Music]

794
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,560
all right welcome back fade to black i

795
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,320
am your host jimmy church tonight aaron

796
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:00,160
montgomery is here

797
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:04,720
and uh i just wanted to say happy 420

798
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:08,240
everybody happy 420.

799
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:12,640
there it is aaron what do you think

800
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,440
i mean that's a bag of weed right there

801
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:17,119
that's a bag of wheat

802
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,430
happy 420 aaron montgomery joins us for

803
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:27,119
the first time on fade to black

804
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:28,480
tonight we're going to talk about her

805
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,079
life of contact and what it means for

806
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:31,920
the future of the planet

807
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:35,440
and uh aaron is at least

808
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:37,839
a third generation ufo contacting a

809
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:40,640
family with four generations of contact

810
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,800
she began experiencing strange phenomena

811
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:44,720
as early as four years old we're going

812
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,359
to talk about

813
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,599
all of this tonight she's been able to

814
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:49,280
retrieve some of those memories through

815
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:50,240
hypnotic

816
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:51,760
regression to help relieve some of the

817
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,079
trauma that was created by those early

818
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:56,400
encounters with alien beings

819
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:59,520
recently having moved from roswell

820
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:01,040
that's right where she lived for 20

821
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:01,760
years

822
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:04,240
she has returned to her home in montrose

823
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:05,200
colorado

824
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,760
during the day she works as a clinical

825
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,280
therapist we're going to talk about that

826
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:11,119
too as well in the evenings

827
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,880
she can be found working with others on

828
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,280
a spiritual level writing new material

829
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:17,440
or working to engage more direct contact

830
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:18,800
with beings

831
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,760
not of this world she has a great

832
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:23,359
website you can go and visit it the

833
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:25,720
links are over at jimmychurchradio.com

834
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,320
aaronmontgomery.net and i've also posted

835
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:30,560
up a link to her books page she's got a

836
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:32,160
couple of books published

837
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:33,720
and that is right there

838
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:35,200
jimmychurchradio.com too and i would

839
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:36,560
like to welcome for the first time to

840
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:37,920
fade to black

841
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:40,000
aaron montgomery aaron good evening how

842
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:41,280
are you hi

843
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:44,400
hi i'm glad to be here very good today

844
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:47,599
so we meet again yes

845
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,480
so we need time so we meet again and

846
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:52,160
we'll talk about that in a minute but uh

847
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,680
the first thing we've got to get out of

848
00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:55,359
the way aaron is you get

849
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:58,160
the first time guest disclaimer and i

850
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:58,880
know you've been

851
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:01,359
looking forward to this but here here we

852
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:03,040
go aaron is just you and i

853
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:04,400
sitting on my couch having a

854
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,240
conversation as friends and

855
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,160
where that conversation starts it starts

856
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:09,760
where it ends it ends but we're gonna

857
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:10,960
end his friends

858
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:13,280
there you go right all right tension

859
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,240
over sounds good

860
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,280
tension relieved attention relief um

861
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,480
so much to talk about tonight and uh i

862
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:21,920
know that we're gonna

863
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:23,440
have to break this down in a few

864
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:26,480
different uh sections for the show

865
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:29,839
but uh and and of course i'm officially

866
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,560
inviting you back onto the show where we

867
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:34,880
can pick any one of these subjects

868
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:38,000
and and do a real deep dive into it

869
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:40,240
with you there is so much to discuss and

870
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,680
then of course we have everything that's

871
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:43,280
happening in the world today

872
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:46,480
when it comes to ufos and et contact so

873
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:48,320
we've got a lot to do tonight

874
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:51,280
and uh i want to get started with the

875
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:52,960
obvious question

876
00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:55,839
which is uh what was growing up like in

877
00:39:11,030 --> 00:38:57,079
a

878
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:11,040
contentions for myself

879
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:14,079
um at this point to be the craziest one

880
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:15,359
because i'm the one that talks about

881
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:17,359
stuff that happens in the family

882
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,720
um the rest of us

883
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:22,640
have been very quiet and don't talk

884
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,040
about it but you know it was really my

885
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:27,599
my granny my my father's mother who told

886
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:29,040
me what was going on

887
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:32,079
in in the family and um and

888
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,760
there are so many different people who

889
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:35,440
have had experiences and

890
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:38,240
i've done my best to tease it out from

891
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:39,920
each one that i have been able to get a

892
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,800
hold of

893
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:43,920
and unfortunately so many have passed on

894
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:46,320
that there's information that has

895
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,000
disappeared

896
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:51,440
when and now when we talk about uh

897
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,119
three generations and maybe even four

898
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:57,599
um what kind of time span are we talking

899
00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:58,720
about here

900
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,640
when did this contact with the family

901
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:02,160
start

902
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,599
well that's that's another good question

903
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,200
i'm not exactly sure where it started

904
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,200
but the earliest contact i know of is my

905
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:09,359
grandfather my father's father

906
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:12,960
he had a very interesting experience

907
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:15,440
when he was courting my grandmother

908
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:19,440
um so this would have been 1930s in a

909
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:20,800
very small town in

910
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,920
texas called la misa and um

911
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:25,359
definitely before street lights or

912
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:26,880
anything and he was walking home from

913
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:27,839
her house

914
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,440
back to his and he was really sick

915
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:32,640
he was really sick he had upper

916
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,119
respiratory illness like bronchitis

917
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:37,200
tonsillitis something like that going on

918
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,359
and as he's walking home there's this

919
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:41,280
bright light that shines down from above

920
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:42,720
onto his head

921
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:46,319
and he pretty much freaked out and ran

922
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:47,839
the rest of the way home the light

923
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:50,560
followed with him the whole time

924
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:52,960
he ran in the house jumped in the bed

925
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:54,400
and the light is streaming through the

926
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:54,960
window

927
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:59,520
onto him and um as far as i know

928
00:41:02,470 --> 00:41:00,800
you know who knows what happened that

929
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:02,480
night i don't know but when he woke up

930
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:04,000
in the morning he was completely healed

931
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:05,680
he was no longer ill

932
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,240
and so yeah the lights don't just shine

933
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:10,480
down in the 1930s on

934
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:13,520
on the small rural towns in texas

935
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:16,319
so there is definitely ideas that it was

936
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:17,520
ufos and and my

937
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:21,760
my granny believed that it was a ufo

938
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:25,040
now so that's the 1930s and

939
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:28,240
do you feel that uh and i know this is

940
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:28,880
just the

941
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:32,319
obvious question but needs to be asked

942
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,079
do you feel that your life of contact

943
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,359
is connected to theirs

944
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:41,839
absolutely i do i mean if it's if it was

945
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,960
my grandfather

946
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:45,119
my father and my aunt his sister have

947
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:48,560
both had experiences

948
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:51,760
and then myself my brother i suspect

949
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:52,400
he's seen

950
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,480
things but hasn't talked about contact

951
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:56,800
or anything several of my cousins have

952
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:58,880
had these experiences

953
00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:01,040
and now our children are having

954
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,000
experiences so

955
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,160
yeah i think there's like a generational

956
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:05,839
going down the line

957
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:08,000
something going on what what's what's

958
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:11,200
thanksgiving dinner like

959
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,119
it's chaos yeah right but

960
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:17,520
nobody talks about these things except

961
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,319
for me

962
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:20,400
you know i i'm the one that goes and and

963
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:21,520
starts like

964
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,960
can you tell me a little bit about that

965
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:25,359
one time that you said that you were all

966
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:26,800
of a sudden afraid of aliens you know i

967
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:28,240
talked about one of my cousins about

968
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:28,880
that

969
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:32,400
and he um would expand on his story

970
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,599
which um is an interesting thing and

971
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:37,440
then you know the other day

972
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,079
um it was actually it was thanksgiving

973
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:42,079
which is funny i was with my dad but we

974
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,400
were

975
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,319
out on an atv up in the mountains and

976
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:46,480
and i was able to ask him okay come on

977
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,280
tell me more

978
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,599
details and i was able to get more

979
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:51,599
information about my aunt who

980
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:54,800
passed away about eight years ago and

981
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:56,800
you know and about my granny as well so

982
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:58,000
not only my father's

983
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,319
father's side but his mother as well has

984
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,240
had experiences so it's

985
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,240
it's really really interesting yeah take

986
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:06,400
me through that are these experiences

987
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:09,520
contact is it sightings i'm sure it's

988
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:10,560
different with

989
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:13,680
with uh all of your relatives but in a

990
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:20,550
well you know with my granny um

991
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:23,599
this would have been early 80s uh she

992
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:26,000
was walking and this is in carlsbad new

993
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:27,760
mexico so it's very hot

994
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:30,400
in the summer at you know sometimes up

995
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:31,839
to 115

996
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,640
and she was walking and they thought she

997
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:36,240
had had a sunstroke

998
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,079
because she had passed out on the ground

999
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,000
there's a bright flashlight she passes

1000
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:42,000
out and as she's getting up on her hands

1001
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:43,599
and knees to

1002
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:46,960
get back up she and she raises her head

1003
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:48,319
she sees in front of her

1004
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:51,760
like an alien landscape like it was mars

1005
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,839
and it took her as you know blinking and

1006
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:55,359
shaking her head a little bit to bring

1007
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:57,280
it back to the street that she was

1008
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,480
actually on

1009
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,000
and so it makes you wonder what the heck

1010
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,079
was that you know i don't know was it

1011
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:04,319
contact was it deciding was a division

1012
00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:05,760
seems like a vision or something

1013
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:07,839
happened to her but

1014
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,640
my cousin has had an experience on the

1015
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:12,319
same road

1016
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:13,680
also during the summer time i don't

1017
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,520
think it was the same year but uh he and

1018
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,119
i were discussing this the other day how

1019
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:19,280
close in proximity and in time

1020
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:22,319
were these two incidents my cousin was

1021
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:23,680
riding his bike

1022
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:27,680
home from us you know the school yard

1023
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,839
and he was supposed to be home at a

1024
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:31,760
particular time and as he was riding the

1025
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,440
bike he hit this one particular

1026
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:35,760
intersection in a bright light

1027
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:39,119
flashed and he was terrified he said he

1028
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:42,319
just felt absolutely horrified

1029
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:44,960
about something and he didn't know what

1030
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:45,680
and then

1031
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:48,880
he woke up several blocks back

1032
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,440
from where he had came from nose

1033
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:53,520
bleeding his bike was propped up on the

1034
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:54,480
curb like he had

1035
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:56,960
purposely parked it there and he's he's

1036
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:58,319
just waking up and getting off the

1037
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:59,280
ground

1038
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:01,280
and he said from that moment on he has

1039
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,960
been absolutely terrified of the small

1040
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,480
grey aliens that you see

1041
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:06,720
on tv and in you know advertising and

1042
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,680
all of that

1043
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:09,760
um he so he doesn't have any memories of

1044
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,960
what happened but

1045
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,480
something happened and something blew

1046
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,079
him back several blocks

1047
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:16,800
and kind of knocked him out um he came

1048
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:18,400
home and he was about

1049
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:20,160
three hours late and he got in serious

1050
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:21,839
trouble

1051
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:24,960
and that was the same year as

1052
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:28,000
your grandmother we're we're thinking it

1053
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:28,960
was very

1054
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:32,000
close to around 1984 or so because he

1055
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,200
and i were about 10

1056
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:35,040
at the point in time that that happened

1057
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,800
so that would have been carl's bad too

1058
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,960
what is it about carl's bad

1059
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,560
i'm not so sure but it's not all that

1060
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:42,160
far from roswell no it's not

1061
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:47,280
no carlsbad's right there and um

1062
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,359
any recent uh that's the 80s

1063
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,319
um did did it continue after the 80s uh

1064
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:56,880
through today

1065
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:59,520
with your family yeah oh yeah because in

1066
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:00,400
the 90s

1067
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:03,280
i was pregnant and in college and then i

1068
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,599
went to live with my granny and my aunt

1069
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:07,920
at the time and my aunt was working

1070
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,960
um in el paso so she would work for a

1071
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,720
week and then she'd be home

1072
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:15,599
for a week and then she said that at one

1073
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,640
point in time

1074
00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:18,000
i remember her coming back to the house

1075
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:20,079
saying oh my gosh this is crazy but she

1076
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,440
was driving past an empty field

1077
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,200
on her way to el paso and there was a

1078
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:27,440
ship that was landed

1079
00:46:33,309 --> 00:46:30,079
and she could see the beings underneath

1080
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,319
um and so this would have been

1081
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:35,680
95 1995.

1082
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:39,359
wow so class a contact yeah

1083
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:42,880
holy crap and and did she describe

1084
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,319
the beings not that i can recall

1085
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,640
i just remember her being pretty excited

1086
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,240
about it yeah i would think so

1087
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:53,119
yeah yeah and um from what i remember

1088
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,640
she saw it several times now i don't

1089
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:56,000
remember if it was like on her way

1090
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:57,760
to el paso if it was in between her

1091
00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:00,160
hotel where she was staying and

1092
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:02,000
the the hospital where she worked i

1093
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,520
don't remember but she

1094
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:05,359
said that she had saw it for several

1095
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:09,119
times and what about your parents

1096
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:12,240
my father has seen ships

1097
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,359
um or what appeared to be ships um he

1098
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:17,760
has not talked about any contact

1099
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:21,520
himself um but uh the way he described

1100
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:22,160
it

1101
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:24,400
just like a month or so ago was like a

1102
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,440
star

1103
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,119
that all of a sudden moves and you think

1104
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:29,200
okay so it's a satellite and then it

1105
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:32,720
changes directions and he said this one

1106
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,680
like dropped down moved to you know the

1107
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:37,440
east or west dropped down again and then

1108
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:39,599
came straight towards him

1109
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:42,079
and he doesn't you know has no recall of

1110
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:42,960
anything after that

1111
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:45,520
and in my opinion if something like that

1112
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:46,960
is coming straight towards you

1113
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:49,440
you're gonna have an experience so and

1114
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:51,040
your mom

1115
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:53,040
my mother does not have any recall of

1116
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:54,480
anything happen like that

1117
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:57,280
um and there's nothing really in her

1118
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,800
family that suggests

1119
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:00,640
contact what does she think about the

1120
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:05,190
um you know and i've asked her one of

1121
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:07,200
the the projects that i'm working on is

1122
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:07,599
the

1123
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,319
has on relationships

1124
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:14,400
whether it's romantic or familial

1125
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,760
whatever and i asked her so what do you

1126
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,440
think of me with all of this stuff going

1127
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:19,359
on and she said who am i

1128
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:21,680
to negate any of your experiences even

1129
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:23,359
though i haven't had them or understand

1130
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:24,319
them

1131
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:27,760
you know and so she's open and

1132
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:31,119
definitely doesn't want to disbelieve

1133
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:34,240
and uh just lets it be the truth that it

1134
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,359
could be you know

1135
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,680
now there's there's another there's

1136
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:39,440
another interesting twist here

1137
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,599
um you're a professional you're a

1138
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:43,280
clinical therapist

1139
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:45,599
uh tell us about that for a second and

1140
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:48,720
and who are you the therapist of

1141
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,280
um i work with the general public at a

1142
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:53,200
you know a community mental health

1143
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:56,720
center so i'm i'm seeing people from the

1144
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,680
ages of five

1145
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,920
all the way up into their 60s 70s at

1146
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:01,680
this point in time

1147
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,240
for a myriad of any reasons whether it's

1148
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:06,400
depression anxiety

1149
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:09,680
trauma substance use you know

1150
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,680
all of those things i work with couples

1151
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:14,000
um you know whoever walks in my door

1152
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:15,200
those are the people that i'm working

1153
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:16,160
with right now

1154
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:19,359
very interesting and now you just moved

1155
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:20,800
to colorado but

1156
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:24,240
you're a clinical therapist in roswell

1157
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,599
and i would assume that

1158
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:30,000
e.t contact in roswell i've been to

1159
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,839
roswell i know what you know i know what

1160
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,440
the city is about

1161
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:36,000
um that's really not that strange of a

1162
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:36,960
thing

1163
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,200
uh does everybody know about your et

1164
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,119
contact

1165
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:43,599
you know i didn't want to anybody really

1166
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:44,319
to know

1167
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,839
um but then it it was a really

1168
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,760
long process of coming to terms with

1169
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,599
okay i really need to talk about this

1170
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:53,200
and then having this voice in the back

1171
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:54,480
of my head you really need to write a

1172
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,440
book

1173
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:57,359
and as a professional like writing a

1174
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,680
book about this crazy

1175
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,440
you know potential like oh they're gonna

1176
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:02,960
just think i'm a lunatic

1177
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:05,599
and and then coming out with my story

1178
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,319
and then

1179
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,400
still wanting to work in the profession

1180
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,160
that i work

1181
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:12,400
was a real conundrum and it was hard and

1182
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:13,839
that's how i came up with the title of

1183
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:16,400
my book the dirty little secret because

1184
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:20,400
i was afraid i was going to lose my job

1185
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:23,520
that is not what happened

1186
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,280
when the book was released i was

1187
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:27,440
actually embraced for it you know by my

1188
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,800
colleagues i thought it was wonderful

1189
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,240
everybody bought it and i was thinking

1190
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,920
oh my god what are they gonna

1191
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,440
what are they gonna say what are they

1192
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:35,520
gonna do and now they all know

1193
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:38,079
about me um and my boss at the time took

1194
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:39,680
me to the side and he said aaron you're

1195
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,520
you're not the craziest one on staff

1196
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:45,359
well that made me feel a lot better yeah

1197
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:47,280
that's a that's a big load of relief

1198
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,160
isn't it

1199
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:51,359
it is yeah well you know it it's funny

1200
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,680
for

1201
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:54,000
everybody out there that has never been

1202
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,280
to roswell

1203
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:57,599
but they hear the descriptions you know

1204
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:59,520
from you and for me and from others that

1205
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:00,559
have been there

1206
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,079
um it still doesn't really deal with the

1207
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:07,440
impact of what roswell is

1208
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:10,960
e.t is everywhere

1209
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:14,960
it is respected it is the economy

1210
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:18,480
and it's not a joke for the city of

1211
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:19,599
roswell

1212
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,480
right and you can go to any business i

1213
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:24,319
remember uh

1214
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:27,200
uh i go to and you probably know all the

1215
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:28,079
hotels have

1216
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,680
an et theme right but uh so i'm at a

1217
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,880
pretty nice hotel

1218
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:34,880
whatever it is you know as you get into

1219
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,160
town

1220
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,319
and uh there's a there's a bunch of

1221
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:40,160
really nice hotels there and

1222
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:41,760
the marriott or whatever it doesn't

1223
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:43,599
matter but it's a nice hotel

1224
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:47,359
you walk in the walls of the lobby

1225
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:51,680
have these ets coming out of the wall

1226
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:55,680
and it's the coolest sculpture artwork

1227
00:52:02,230 --> 00:51:58,720
right that you know like it's like um

1228
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:02,240
ets that are in in behind like a rubber

1229
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:02,640
sheet

1230
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:05,119
and it's stretching out it's like that

1231
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,760
and it's the

1232
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:07,839
that's the hotel lobby and it's

1233
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:09,119
brilliant

1234
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:12,240
but that's roswell right it's roswell

1235
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,440
absolutely every street sign

1236
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:17,920
every business every you know even the

1237
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:19,839
street lights have little alien eyes on

1238
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:21,920
them that is everything absolutely the

1239
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:24,160
economy there yeah yeah yeah it

1240
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,839
obviously the mcdonald's

1241
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:27,520
but it's the banks it's the car

1242
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:29,760
dealerships it's the restaurants it's

1243
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:33,440
every single business as you drive along

1244
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:35,599
has an e.t theme to it and i think it's

1245
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:38,240
really cool they've all got some

1246
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:41,359
and and so if you're if there's a city

1247
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,640
that you're going to come out of the

1248
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,640
closet in

1249
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:47,040
right it's going to be roswell well you

1250
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,720
know and i think of it kind of as a

1251
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,480
cosmic joke i never wanted to be in

1252
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:52,240
roswell it was not my plan at all

1253
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,040
whatsoever

1254
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,760
it just uh was happenstance you know i

1255
00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:56,720
was

1256
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,680
my husband at the time and i were

1257
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:03,440
expecting our second child

1258
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:06,880
and we couldn't make ends meet so we had

1259
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,720
no choice but to move

1260
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,640
and be close to his family which

1261
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:12,720
happened to be in roswell and

1262
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:15,040
it took me a couple of years to actually

1263
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:16,160
break down and

1264
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:17,839
learn the streets because i did not want

1265
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,079
to be there and it was specifically

1266
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,839
because i was having a hard time coming

1267
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:23,119
to terms with

1268
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:25,599
my history as a contactee i didn't want

1269
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,480
to see it

1270
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:28,640
it was everywhere i avoided main street

1271
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:29,920
like the plague

1272
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,920
um and i and i think it's really funny

1273
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:33,280
that 20 years later

1274
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,480
after i've written the book and

1275
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:36,240
completely come to terms with things

1276
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,359
then i could leave it

1277
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:39,839
it was like a like oh you're free you

1278
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,400
can go

1279
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:42,000
you've done what you're supposed to do

1280
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,440
yeah and main street

1281
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:45,680
where where they have the parade each

1282
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:46,720
year uh

1283
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:50,480
fourth of july uh the the et parade

1284
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:53,280
and uh the museum is there and all of

1285
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:54,400
the businesses

1286
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:58,079
are are et related and it's it's blocks

1287
00:54:02,630 --> 00:53:58,800
long it's

1288
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,640
it's a a very congested busy downtown

1289
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:05,200
section uh for roswell did you ever go

1290
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:06,800
to the parade

1291
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:11,040
me many years

1292
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:13,280
so i moved there in 2000 but it wasn't

1293
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:15,520
until 2012 that i

1294
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,640
finally went to the ufo festival

1295
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:20,400
and i went specifically to start

1296
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:21,760
listening to the lectures

1297
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:24,000
and and participating and just trying to

1298
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,760
like all right fine i can no longer

1299
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,520
avoid this i have got to

1300
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:29,119
i've got to immerse myself in what's

1301
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:32,000
going on here um

1302
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:35,520
but yeah the town the town doubles in

1303
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:37,359
size on that weekend

1304
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:40,720
festival weekend and most of the locals

1305
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:41,119
will

1306
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,720
turn tail and hide they don't want

1307
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,240
anything to do with it

1308
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:46,480
just it's too busy it's too crowded

1309
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:47,280
there's

1310
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:50,640
it is too hot july in

1311
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:54,400
in roswell can be 110 at night

1312
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:57,520
at night yeah it's unpleasant

1313
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:00,559
at night i remember sitting outside at a

1314
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:04,319
restaurant uh there it was 10 o'clock 11

1315
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:06,640
o'clock at night and i'm sweating

1316
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:09,040
it's like man it just doesn't stop in

1317
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:09,920
roswell

1318
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,920
did you have an opportunity though to

1319
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:12,960
meet

1320
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:15,920
um others uh from the community uh that

1321
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:17,839
were speaking at roswell did you start

1322
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:19,280
reaching out

1323
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:22,000
i did i did that that first year that i

1324
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:22,400
went

1325
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,400
um the most impactful

1326
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:28,559
connection i made was with yvonne smith

1327
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,839
right and

1328
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,839
and i was able to sit and listen to her

1329
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:33,040
lecture and and

1330
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:34,960
and see what she was saying about

1331
00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:37,119
contact how it can be helped through

1332
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:38,559
hypnosis and i

1333
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:40,000
i just remember going up to her

1334
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,160
afterwards and started crying she

1335
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,640
being the sweet um amazing woman that

1336
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,400
she is just took me into a big hug and

1337
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:48,720
told me it's okay i'm not alone

1338
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:51,359
help me to join her support group even

1339
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,040
though it's in california and i was in

1340
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:55,920
new mexico i was able to connect online

1341
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,280
and and within a few years i was able to

1342
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:01,040
have my own regressions with her

1343
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:02,799
but that was that's probably the number

1344
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:04,559
one connection i made

1345
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,839
yeah she she owns roswell she owns that

1346
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:08,880
town

1347
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:12,559
her i spent a four days with her

1348
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,480
and um the the amount of respect uh that

1349
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,319
roswell gives her it's really cool it's

1350
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:20,319
really cool she owns that she owns it

1351
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:21,920
her and don schmidt

1352
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:25,280
there you go right and um

1353
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:30,000
now uh before we get to uh the break

1354
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:31,440
your contact and we're going to come

1355
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,240
back and and and talk more about this

1356
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:36,720
but was there continuous contact in

1357
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:39,280
roswell for those 20 years

1358
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:42,799
yeah yeah and the first thing that most

1359
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:44,720
people are going to think it's roswell

1360
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:47,359
of course it's going to happen but the

1361
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:48,480
this contact

1362
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:51,119
has also been following you do you think

1363
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:51,920
that contact

1364
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,079
it's related to your family of course do

1365
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,040
you think it's also related to roswell

1366
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:59,119
you know i'm not necessarily sure it

1367
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:00,319
could be i mean

1368
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:03,280
with well i mean my grandparents were in

1369
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:04,400
texas when i

1370
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:07,359
know that contact happened um you know

1371
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:09,760
in the 30s but they settled in carlsbad

1372
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:11,440
which isn't far away

1373
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:14,799
then you know with my my dad his sister

1374
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:18,000
their children i moved i was born in

1375
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:19,359
phoenix but then

1376
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:22,880
my parents moved us to roswell from

1377
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,799
like six months old until my fourth

1378
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,280
birthday and so i was there

1379
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:29,440
again you know in that area and then

1380
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:31,119
moved to colorado and was there until i

1381
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,240
graduated high school

1382
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:34,559
so is roswell part of it i don't know

1383
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,760
maybe so

1384
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:37,680
um a lot of people talk about you know

1385
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:39,760
military history in their family and

1386
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:42,960
i we we don't have that so well yeah i

1387
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:43,440
mean

1388
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:47,119
it's so funny because when uh

1389
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,040
you know the discussion of raws or the

1390
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:50,960
discussion of ufos is one thing

1391
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:54,000
contact all of that okay that

1392
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,880
that's one conversation you drop roswell

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00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:58,000
as the location

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00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:00,160
into the mix that's the natural

1395
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:01,200
assumption is it

1396
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:04,880
it has to be i think a lot of people

1397
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:06,799
do have that assumption but i i'm not

1398
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,160
sure like like you said

1399
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:10,160
it moves with me i've had contact no

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00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:11,920
matter where i was

1401
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:13,839
you know i had things happening to me

1402
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:15,520
for the 10 months that i lived in new

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00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:15,920
york

1404
00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:19,280
so um it doesn't matter where i'm at

1405
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:22,160
which is a whole another uh conversation

1406
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:23,200
um

1407
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:26,240
you are now part of the community

1408
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:29,680
uh you're doing some i don't want to

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00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:31,359
discuss some of the things that you are

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00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:32,799
doing but you are

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00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,640
uh you're doing some media stuff with

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some companies uh which is exciting

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00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,200
but uh at some point everything about

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you in your personal life is going to go

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00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:45,839
public are you ready for that

1416
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:48,319
i don't really have a lot to hide yeah

1417
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:48,880
i'm

1418
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,870
i don't have anything to hide let's go

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00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:00,160
let's take our break right here our

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guest tonight aaron montgomery this is

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fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

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this is going to be an amazing night uh

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we're gonna when we come back after the

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break i'm very excited about this we're

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gonna start we gotta go back to four

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years old

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let's see how it started and we'll work

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our way forward this is fade to black

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1547
01:04:42,069 --> 01:04:40,640
welcome back fade to black i am your

1548
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:42,079
host jimmy church tonight aaron

1549
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:44,079
montgomery is here tomorrow night

1550
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:46,640
dr stephen greer thursday night fader

1551
01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:48,960
night open lines all night long

1552
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:52,000
with richard dolan doing a drive-by

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01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:54,160
all of that this week on fade to black

1554
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:55,839
tonight aaron montgomery

1555
01:05:01,910 --> 01:04:59,599
and you know a three four generational

1556
01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:01,920
uh overlap here with et contact with

1557
01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:03,839
your family it's pretty amazing

1558
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:07,119
and uh and for you

1559
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:10,160
uh four years old four years old

1560
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:13,520
now let's let's start with that was this

1561
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:14,160
uh

1562
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:20,079
remember from four years old

1563
01:05:25,029 --> 01:05:23,200
no no it's not it was a little flash of

1564
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:25,039
memories like i can hold about 30

1565
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:26,799
seconds in my head of what happened when

1566
01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:30,000
i was four and it came to me

1567
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:32,319
just last summer like i was talking to a

1568
01:05:35,829 --> 01:05:33,920
friend who had said something and it

1569
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:35,839
kind of just sparked it like oh my gosh

1570
01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:36,079
i

1571
01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:55,280
there was a round doorway next to us

1572
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:58,400
and um we were like levitating blocks

1573
01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:01,440
kind of passing them back and forth with

1574
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:04,400
uh levitation or gravity i don't know

1575
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:05,680
how we were doing it

1576
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:08,799
and i remember

1577
01:06:12,470 --> 01:06:11,119
a small gray type alien walking by the

1578
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:12,480
doorway with a

1579
01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:14,960
little boy in tow who was older than i

1580
01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:16,559
was maybe around 10

1581
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:18,319
and i remember pointing him pointing at

1582
01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:19,920
me and saying um

1583
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:22,000
something like um i'll know you later

1584
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:22,960
something like that

1585
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:26,400
and um that's the 30 seconds that you

1586
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:27,280
remember

1587
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:30,720
on the floor

1588
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:33,920
the boy passing and that's it wow

1589
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:37,520
okay that's that's crazy town um

1590
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:42,079
and you did you remember this throughout

1591
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:44,000
help me understand what you're you're

1592
01:06:47,589 --> 01:06:45,520
saying here

1593
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:47,599
did you remember this when you were five

1594
01:06:54,069 --> 01:06:49,359
six seven eight

1595
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:54,079
no the memory remember this at 45 at 45

1596
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:57,280
yeah now uh

1597
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:00,400
what do you do with that i mean

1598
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:03,440
i i know that uh you uh

1599
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:05,920
uh you know yvonne smith and and

1600
01:07:10,390 --> 01:07:06,720
regression

1601
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:10,400
did you call yvonne and say hey

1602
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:12,400
no i didn't i didn't i'm just because

1603
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:14,160
she's so far away from me and it's like

1604
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,760
well there's just a little snippet that

1605
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:17,440
popped up and and i think that

1606
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:19,200
they happen all the time i've had little

1607
01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:20,640
snippets pop up

1608
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:24,079
um the only times i reach out to yvonne

1609
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:25,280
is if

1610
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:28,000
the snippet or whatever it is has gotten

1611
01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:29,440
me to a point where i'm no longer

1612
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:30,319
sleeping

1613
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:32,960
um if i'm if i'm put back into like a

1614
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,000
traumatized state

1615
01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:36,400
where i'm feeling paranoid like i'm

1616
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:37,839
going to be somebody's going to come and

1617
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:39,599
get me in the night i can't turn off the

1618
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:40,240
light

1619
01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,000
i start missing work because i'm so

1620
01:07:45,990 --> 01:07:44,160
exhausted that's when

1621
01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:46,000
i know that i need to be regressed so

1622
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:48,319
that i can just calm the memories down

1623
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:51,680
and um so yeah i don't i don't seek out

1624
01:07:56,789 --> 01:07:54,960
regression for just to have the memories

1625
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:56,799
that's not what i do it for i do it to

1626
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:57,200
help

1627
01:08:01,109 --> 01:08:00,079
heal you know whatever whatever damage

1628
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,119
has been done by

1629
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:04,079
by trauma um that having been said the

1630
01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:06,319
second time i did a regression

1631
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:09,599
it was um i had a flash of memory

1632
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:11,680
from around 10 years old and i was

1633
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,680
excited in the memory i remember being

1634
01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:15,359
really really excited about what it was

1635
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:17,359
about to happen and i told yvonne i want

1636
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:17,759
to

1637
01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:21,120
if i'm excited if i'm excited not scared

1638
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:22,000
i want to know what this

1639
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:24,239
is i want to go here i want to do this

1640
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:25,199
and she said okay

1641
01:08:29,669 --> 01:08:27,600
let's do it and then i found out no it

1642
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:29,679
wasn't no it wasn't all that fun

1643
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:32,799
it wasn't all that fun once again okay

1644
01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:36,080
so did you um uh

1645
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:39,679
fly out to california you know what no

1646
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:42,159
i usually sit down with her when she

1647
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:43,120
came to roswell

1648
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,640
and now that i'm not there i'm really

1649
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,719
sad so i've got to

1650
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:48,960
get my butt back to roswell but i'm sure

1651
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:50,880
that uh in time i'll be able to go and

1652
01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:52,560
see her in california

1653
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:55,839
okay so i guess what i'm asking is

1654
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:59,839
um uh you guys did do a session together

1655
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:00,799
though it wasn't

1656
01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:03,520
here in california it was back in

1657
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:04,640
roswell

1658
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:07,199
yeah yeah so we would we would book

1659
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:08,239
times

1660
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:10,560
during the festival at our hotel room so

1661
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:12,239
i could just be regressed there

1662
01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:15,600
so okay let's go what happened

1663
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,960
in the first regression um

1664
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,199
let's see it's it's the the thing with

1665
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:23,199
being a contactee is really it is not

1666
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:23,920
linear

1667
01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:26,480
things come and go and and you

1668
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:28,080
experience something but you remember

1669
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:29,279
something else and it

1670
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,120
it gets all jumbled time gets jumbled in

1671
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:32,880
your head um

1672
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:35,279
in 2012 i had had an experience that was

1673
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:36,480
very very scary

1674
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:39,279
and that is what brought up those

1675
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:40,880
symptoms of not being able to sleep i

1676
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:42,640
couldn't turn the light off and then by

1677
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:43,520
2015

1678
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,400
i had told yvonne i cannot do this

1679
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:48,000
anymore i have got to

1680
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,040
heal whatever is is happening and

1681
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,520
um and so i brought a friend with me

1682
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:55,040
because i didn't understand

1683
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:58,480
um hypnosis at the time and um

1684
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:00,080
you know am i going to leave a zombie i

1685
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:02,960
don't know can i drive

1686
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,360
and um and she asked me what is it in

1687
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:06,960
specific that you want to do and i told

1688
01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:08,640
her i want to go back to the moment

1689
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:12,080
that trauma was set in

1690
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:13,840
with me and has caused all these

1691
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:15,120
problems you know down

1692
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:17,920
down the line and so she was able to

1693
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:20,480
walk me back to the age of seven

1694
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:23,679
and um at seven years old i remember

1695
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:24,560
thinking

1696
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:28,159
moon must be really bright like it was a

1697
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:29,679
full moon or something and it was kind

1698
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:30,000
of

1699
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,600
stinging my eyes and um i turned my head

1700
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:35,360
away from the window and there was a

1701
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:37,440
being standing right next to my bed i

1702
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:38,880
had a twin size bed and

1703
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:41,920
and the the face of the being was right

1704
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:42,640
there

1705
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:46,000
at my eye level and re

1706
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,159
remember like oh hi what's you know this

1707
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:49,920
this surprise like hey

1708
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:51,920
there you are i wasn't afraid of this

1709
01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:53,120
being

1710
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:55,600
she was a gray type like they said but

1711
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:56,159
doesn't

1712
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:58,640
look like the images that you'll see all

1713
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:01,199
over roswell not that flat face

1714
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:04,800
you said she you just said she

1715
01:11:10,149 --> 01:11:07,840
i did okay she

1716
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:10,159
this this being i i call her a female

1717
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:11,040
just because she

1718
01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:13,920
she exuded this nurturing feeling from

1719
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:16,400
her very very feminine feeling

1720
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:19,920
um not not an active um purposeful

1721
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:20,640
feeling like

1722
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:22,080
you would think a male would is very

1723
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:23,760
nurturing and open

1724
01:11:28,470 --> 01:11:26,640
and so i i have associated a gender with

1725
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:28,480
her is that my humanness probably

1726
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:31,600
you know um but she said

1727
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:32,960
you know everything's fine we're gonna

1728
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:35,199
we're gonna go on a little adventure

1729
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:36,800
basically is what she told me i don't

1730
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:38,880
remember the exact words

1731
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:42,080
that came out of the regression and um

1732
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:43,440
it was at that point in time that i

1733
01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:44,719
noticed there were two other beings in

1734
01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:47,120
the room one was at my feet

1735
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:50,480
and one was in the doorway the one at my

1736
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:50,960
feet

1737
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:53,679
put his his here i'm going with the mail

1738
01:11:57,430 --> 01:11:54,480
put his hand

1739
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:57,440
under my foot and was able to levitate

1740
01:12:01,910 --> 01:11:58,159
me

1741
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:01,920
i would lift it out of my bed

1742
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:05,120
and moved you know out of my bedroom and

1743
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:06,880
into the hallway

1744
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:10,400
and all four of us went up

1745
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:13,360
we went up through through the ceiling

1746
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:14,719
through the roof

1747
01:12:19,590 --> 01:12:17,840
and um one of the most

1748
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:19,600
amazing miraculous things that i can

1749
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:21,280
remember from the regression is

1750
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:25,199
being able to actually feel my molecules

1751
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,000
pass through the molecules of the solid

1752
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:30,000
objects that i was moving through like i

1753
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:30,719
could i could

1754
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:32,960
feel the passing it was it's hard to

1755
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:34,320
describe but it was

1756
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:38,000
just a phenomenal sensation and

1757
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:40,159
you know once i was outside we we

1758
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:42,000
continued to flow it up into this beam

1759
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,760
which i assume is what i thought was the

1760
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:45,600
bright light or the moon coming in my

1761
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:46,400
window

1762
01:12:52,310 --> 01:12:50,080
and there was a saucer shaped ship

1763
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:52,320
above the house with an aperture in the

1764
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:54,480
bottom that the light was coming out of

1765
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,440
and um we went up into that aperture and

1766
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:59,360
i remember them like maneuvering me over

1767
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:00,480
to the side

1768
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:03,600
like up and over and then they proceeded

1769
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:05,600
to take me down a hallway

1770
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:09,040
now the the hallways were all very round

1771
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:12,080
and metallic looking like a aluminum or

1772
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,760
something i i'd like to describe it as

1773
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:15,120
the inside of a milk truck

1774
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:16,239
you know what you would think that would

1775
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:19,600
look like very pristine very round

1776
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:22,719
and i was led into

1777
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:26,719
like an examination room and

1778
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:28,640
my instincts at the age of seven was

1779
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:31,120
this is this is the dentist office

1780
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:33,280
um and it looked like you know there was

1781
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:35,280
the cabinets and things that

1782
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:36,960
would be in a dentist office and then

1783
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:38,719
there was this chair

1784
01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:41,120
um i was placed into the chair i was

1785
01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:43,199
strapped in like across my shoulders and

1786
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:44,800
just held into place and

1787
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,719
i became a little bit nervous at that

1788
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:48,080
point like wait why are we

1789
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:49,760
why are you tying me down what's going

1790
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:51,920
on and um

1791
01:13:55,590 --> 01:13:53,520
you know the sentiment coming from them

1792
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:55,600
i don't remember anything verbal or

1793
01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:57,360
anything like that more of a telepathic

1794
01:14:02,709 --> 01:13:59,360
it's okay just relax you're fine

1795
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:02,719
and that's when this other being entered

1796
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,080
the room

1797
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:06,400
and that that is the moment that the

1798
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:08,159
trauma started was this being

1799
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:10,480
opening not opening this being walking

1800
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:12,400
in the room that's what started it

1801
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:16,000
he would for whatever reason he scared

1802
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:18,640
the bejesus out of me he was terrifying

1803
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:21,360
he was very very tall very thin

1804
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,199
very long arms and legs he

1805
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:27,360
was wearing a jumpsuit of some sort i

1806
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:29,840
remember and he had a triangular shaped

1807
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:30,480
head

1808
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:32,560
um i don't have a lot of details of the

1809
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:34,640
face because i think

1810
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:37,199
i am so afraid of them even now that i

1811
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:38,960
can't quite

1812
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:40,880
get all the details like my mind will

1813
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,000
not will not let me

1814
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:44,640
go there but what i do remember was

1815
01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:46,960
things that were moving around his mouth

1816
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:47,600
like

1817
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:51,120
would think a bug

1818
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:53,040
having moving mouth parts that's what i

1819
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:54,400
remember seeing

1820
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:57,040
at the bottom of the space not cool not

1821
01:15:05,189 --> 01:14:57,600
cool

1822
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:05,199
uh this way or this way

1823
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:08,400
that way this way with with

1824
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:12,320
moving mandibles yeah that's not right

1825
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:18,149
that's what it scared me so bad i know

1826
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:20,159
what color was he

1827
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:21,840
i don't remember you don't remember i

1828
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:23,280
don't remember the color of this

1829
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:25,440
fair enough i just remember his jumpsuit

1830
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:27,360
and i believe

1831
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:28,800
like if i was to go back to the

1832
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:30,480
transcript it was either blue or black

1833
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:32,480
but i think it was black

1834
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:35,679
i don't remember so what happened next

1835
01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:38,400
what happened next is i freaked out and

1836
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:40,000
i started you know trying to get out of

1837
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,920
my seat and i remember him telling the

1838
01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:43,520
others in the room you need to calm her

1839
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:44,560
down or you're going to have to take her

1840
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,080
back

1841
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:48,400
um and that's when i had one of you know

1842
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:50,400
the the looming in the face and you need

1843
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:50,880
to

1844
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:54,480
and

1845
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:58,080
he pulled out um he had this instrument

1846
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:00,159
about a foot long it was very

1847
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:04,560
thin um looks silver metal type of thing

1848
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:07,679
with uh two prongs on the end uh

1849
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:10,400
look like a fork and inside the prongs

1850
01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:12,000
was a

1851
01:16:18,830 --> 01:16:15,199
a gelatinous pink

1852
01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:18,840
blubbery biological

1853
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:22,560
thing in it and um and they inserted it

1854
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:24,640
into the roof of my mouth

1855
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:26,400
i'm assuming at this point in time

1856
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:28,320
thinking of all other contactions this

1857
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:30,080
must have been an implant of some sort

1858
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:31,920
why it was biological i don't know was

1859
01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:34,320
it encasing something maybe i don't

1860
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:37,120
i don't know or did you know not nothing

1861
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:38,800
metal that i could tell but yeah they

1862
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:42,000
insert it into the roof of my mouth um

1863
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:44,239
at that time he put the instrument down

1864
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:45,199
left room

1865
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:48,239
i was unstrapped the female

1866
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:51,600
feeling being took me by the hand took

1867
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:52,719
me to the window

1868
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:54,239
i was able to look down on earth and

1869
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:55,679
thought it was very beautiful and then i

1870
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:01,990
no recall of that until about you know

1871
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:02,400
from

1872
01:17:06,229 --> 01:17:04,400
the age of seven until about 19 when i

1873
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:06,239
had some very strange memories coming

1874
01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:07,520
back at that time

1875
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:09,600
um like floating down the hallway and

1876
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:11,040
and just remembering

1877
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,880
bizarre things and it didn't really make

1878
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:14,640
sense

1879
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:17,840
um after after the hypnosis

1880
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:21,360
and you know yvonne bringing me back to

1881
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:23,120
full consciousness and everything and

1882
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:24,560
and um

1883
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:26,880
i think wow this is crazy i did how you

1884
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:27,760
know is this

1885
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:29,520
was this real did i make this up and she

1886
01:17:31,750 --> 01:17:30,880
said aaron i've heard that story two

1887
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:31,760
other times

1888
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:35,120
yeah um um

1889
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:37,520
did you have conscious recall of the

1890
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:38,239
session

1891
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:41,440
when you woke up most of it when he came

1892
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:43,120
out of it now when he woke up but

1893
01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:45,600
yeah when he came out of it i remembered

1894
01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:46,480
most of it there are

1895
01:17:50,229 --> 01:17:48,080
like fine details that i still don't

1896
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:50,239
remember and have to to have to read it

1897
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:52,239
to see exactly now what exactly happened

1898
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:53,679
because my mind's like no

1899
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:55,120
we're not going there and like right

1900
01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:57,040
right but you know

1901
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:00,560
can i can i say something sure okay

1902
01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:04,560
looking at you your professional

1903
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:07,679
your professional looking

1904
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:11,360
right your demeanor your

1905
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:14,400
you're the way that you carry yourself

1906
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:18,159
um you've got all this going on

1907
01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:21,280
and then you have this story

1908
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:24,800
i that's uh that's crazy

1909
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:28,080
i mean that's crazy i mean uh did you

1910
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:30,239
ever think the thoughts that i'm

1911
01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:31,440
thinking right now like

1912
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:34,480
man have i just lost my marbles all the

1913
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:35,120
time

1914
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:38,239
that's why

1915
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:40,960
it took me a long time to come to a

1916
01:18:45,510 --> 01:18:42,719
point where i could tell others

1917
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:45,520
but i knew i had to i knew it was

1918
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:46,719
important

1919
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:48,080
i think i'm just now starting to

1920
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:49,920
understand why it may be

1921
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:52,800
important but this is not something that

1922
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:54,159
people really want to talk about

1923
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:56,239
no not at all you're driving away from

1924
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,280
that session

1925
01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:59,440
i can only imagine what's going through

1926
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:00,640
your mind

1927
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,760
right your your life is flipping upside

1928
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:04,960
down

1929
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:07,199
yeah you know and at the time that i

1930
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:08,159
went there and i

1931
01:19:14,470 --> 01:19:11,440
i told her i want to go to this moment

1932
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,480
where trauma happened i was already very

1933
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:16,320
well aware that i was a contactee

1934
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:18,400
you know i had had conscious recall and

1935
01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:20,640
i had known things that happened

1936
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:23,520
and so i didn't go there blank like i

1937
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,960
don't understand i think it may have

1938
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,480
happened

1939
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:29,280
it might my purpose was i want to know

1940
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:31,120
what scared me so bad so that i can heal

1941
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:31,679
it yeah

1942
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:34,719
well triangle head uh takes it to a

1943
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:36,400
whole other level i mean that i'm sure

1944
01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:37,840
you didn't expect

1945
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:41,040
uh any of that now that was okay uh

1946
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:42,719
help me out with the timeline here that

1947
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:44,800
was your first session with

1948
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:46,960
yvonne yes and that would have been in

1949
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:48,400
about 2015.

1950
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:50,719
okay it during your second session i

1951
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:51,760
want to jump ahead

1952
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:54,320
and we'll we'll fill in the blanks later

1953
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,760
you said that there was the

1954
01:20:00,550 --> 01:19:58,159
event when you were seven when the

1955
01:20:01,430 --> 01:20:00,560
trauma started right so you figured that

1956
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:01,440
part out

1957
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:04,560
you guys unboxed that right did

1958
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:06,480
the second session was this when you

1959
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:08,480
were 10 years old

1960
01:20:12,149 --> 01:20:11,040
yes the next time i was i went back to

1961
01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:12,159
the age of 10.

1962
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:14,800
now after after that first regression i

1963
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:15,760
have had

1964
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:17,679
very few nights of not being able to

1965
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:18,880
sleep that terror

1966
01:20:23,750 --> 01:20:21,920
has really quite gone away i think i can

1967
01:20:25,910 --> 01:20:23,760
only remember one

1968
01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:25,920
instance of being too afraid to sleep in

1969
01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:27,679
the last couple years and that's because

1970
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:28,320
i think but

1971
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:30,320
bigfoot was outside my window but you

1972
01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:32,400
know totally different story totally

1973
01:20:36,070 --> 01:20:33,440
different

1974
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:36,080
atmosphere um i think we're all going to

1975
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:36,719
be

1976
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:40,480
about triangle head so

1977
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:42,400
right there there you go it's going to

1978
01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:43,679
it's going to follow me

1979
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:47,360
home too as well i'm sorry about it yeah

1980
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:50,560
but yeah so so

1981
01:20:54,470 --> 01:20:52,560
you know fast forward to 2018 which was

1982
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:54,480
a really important year for me

1983
01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:57,920
um in the ufo field um you know just in

1984
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:01,040
my own experiences of it because in 2018

1985
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:03,600
that's when i met terry lovelace and you

1986
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,120
know he and i have become pretty good

1987
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:07,280
friends at this point and

1988
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:10,080
being able to gain the power to write

1989
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:10,719
because he's

1990
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:12,080
he pushed me aaron you need to write

1991
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:13,360
this all down you need to write your

1992
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:14,159
book and

1993
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:16,400
and so i did and if it hadn't been for

1994
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:18,080
him i probably wouldn't have done that

1995
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,760
and of course i met him

1996
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:21,600
through yvonne because she wanted us

1997
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:23,920
both to be as professional

1998
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:25,920
you know as professionals with these

1999
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:27,360
experiences to

2000
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:30,000
do a i think it was a tv interview thing

2001
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:32,880
that we were doing with her at that time

2002
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:36,400
but right before that i had had

2003
01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:39,040
i was married and i my husband had

2004
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:40,639
gotten out of bed and he had

2005
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,880
his cell phone you know trying to light

2006
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:45,040
his way out of the room

2007
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:47,679
and he accidentally got the white in my

2008
01:21:51,270 --> 01:21:49,440
eyes and i

2009
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:51,280
woke up and and boom one of those

2010
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:54,239
flashes came and i remembered being

2011
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:57,600
a little kid and i remembered being

2012
01:22:00,950 --> 01:22:00,159
um i remember the moment because my dad

2013
01:22:02,629 --> 01:22:00,960
was at a

2014
01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:02,639
my dad had taken me to a softball

2015
01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:04,480
tournament and i

2016
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:06,400
i recognized where we were at it was

2017
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,000
like the condo that we were staying at

2018
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:10,080
for that tournament and

2019
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:12,560
this would have been in durango colorado

2020
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:14,000
um

2021
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:17,440
and in that flash there were little

2022
01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:19,679
gray type aliens around me and we were

2023
01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:21,679
all excited like all of us were

2024
01:22:25,510 --> 01:22:23,360
feeling the excitement and i just

2025
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:25,520
remembered yes it's coming it's coming

2026
01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:28,320
and and i told yvonne if this is if this

2027
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:29,840
is exciting i want to go here i want to

2028
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:31,040
learn about this because

2029
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:34,080
if i was terrified at seven how come i

2030
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:36,480
was excited at 10 and maybe this was

2031
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:39,360
something fun that happened and so she

2032
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:42,000
was able to take me back to that moment

2033
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:45,920
um and you know the interesting thing

2034
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:47,679
about that night is my father told me

2035
01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:49,199
that i kept getting up

2036
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,719
i would i would get out of my sleeping

2037
01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:52,159
bag i think i was sleeping in the dining

2038
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:53,600
room because like the whole team was in

2039
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:54,880
this one condo

2040
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:56,239
and i would get out of my sleeping bag

2041
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:57,440
and i would go to the front door and try

2042
01:23:01,110 --> 01:22:59,600
to get out and dad would tell me what

2043
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:01,120
aaron where are you going i'm like oh i

2044
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:03,199
just got to go do you need to go the

2045
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:04,960
bathroom no i just need to go

2046
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:06,639
and he put me back in bed and i'd get up

2047
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,960
and go back to the door again so

2048
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,159
i don't remember any of that

2049
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:12,639
sleepwalking or whatever but

2050
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:15,760
in the regression i remember being

2051
01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:17,840
outside with several children

2052
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:21,199
these beings and several adults

2053
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,520
including my father though he does not

2054
01:23:26,470 --> 01:23:25,440
have any recall and has no recall of

2055
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:26,480
contact at all

2056
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:29,760
but i saw my father in the crowd

2057
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:33,440
and a ship came down from above and i

2058
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:34,080
remember

2059
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,440
hearing the creaking and the scraping of

2060
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:39,120
the ship as it came down between the

2061
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:41,040
trees because this is a forested area

2062
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:42,000
this is

2063
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:44,159
you know deep in the mountains in

2064
01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:45,280
western colorado

2065
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:48,480
and i remember hearing branches break

2066
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:50,239
and things like that as it came and

2067
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:52,000
settled down to the ground

2068
01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:55,760
um and then we we kind of all funneled

2069
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:56,239
in

2070
01:24:03,189 --> 01:24:00,000
remember the same

2071
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:03,199
round hallways and i was barefoot and i

2072
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:04,080
remember the

2073
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:06,639
ground of you know as i was walking

2074
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:09,920
inside the ship feeling like astroturf

2075
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:12,080
black it was black but it felt like

2076
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:13,920
astroturf kind of prickly

2077
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:16,960
um the odd details that you pick up

2078
01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:20,400
yeah right right i

2079
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:22,560
i'm right with you i'm i'm walking

2080
01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:23,760
barefoot in

2081
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,960
in the prickly black astro turf theater

2082
01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:28,320
of the mind well done

2083
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:32,000
well done okay what happens next

2084
01:24:36,149 --> 01:24:34,159
next i am you know as the people are

2085
01:24:36,790 --> 01:24:36,159
walking down this hallway i am led into

2086
01:24:39,590 --> 01:24:36,800
another

2087
01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:39,600
room it was an exam room now you know

2088
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:42,080
i'm 10 or 11 years old

2089
01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:45,199
and i am stripped

2090
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:48,320
and put into a bad you know

2091
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:51,040
gurney typing whatever um and um

2092
01:24:55,990 --> 01:24:52,960
actually had my first pelvic exam

2093
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:56,000
ever which makes sense now because

2094
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:58,159
you know a few months later puberty

2095
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:00,080
happens and and here i am

2096
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:03,199
as a woman um and i remember

2097
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:06,560
being extremely uncomfortable um

2098
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:09,760
during this examination i remember them

2099
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:11,040
putting this weird

2100
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:13,600
thing on my head and i don't remember

2101
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:15,600
what it was somebody told me that it was

2102
01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:17,120
like conical and had these

2103
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:19,280
electrodes and what i don't know um but

2104
01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:20,159
somebody

2105
01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:22,000
another experiencer has said oh that's

2106
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:24,000
how they attach you to the neural net is

2107
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:25,520
what i was told i don't know

2108
01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:27,600
i don't know what it was but after the

2109
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:29,679
exam and i was allowed to get dressed i

2110
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:31,199
was taken into

2111
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:34,960
almost like an auditorium um

2112
01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:37,040
well maybe not maybe more a gymnasium

2113
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:38,800
not an auditorium but it was a very

2114
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:42,639
large space the ceilings were very high

2115
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:45,840
and there was like a honeycomb pattern

2116
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,880
in blue and red pipes all across

2117
01:25:53,110 --> 01:25:50,400
the ceilings and the walls and i could

2118
01:25:55,990 --> 01:25:53,120
see the stars on the outside

2119
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:56,000
there were several podiums in the room

2120
01:26:01,510 --> 01:25:56,960
um

2121
01:26:05,189 --> 01:26:01,520
there would be

2122
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:05,199
a being behind it um

2123
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:08,000
being behind the podium and a child in

2124
01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:09,199
front of the podium and

2125
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:12,639
we were being taught things and

2126
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:14,800
um i was taken to a podium there was a

2127
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:16,560
very tall

2128
01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:19,600
being who was um white

2129
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:21,199
it was like what i would call a tall

2130
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:22,480
white i don't know what other people

2131
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:24,239
would describe as tall white beings but

2132
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:27,040
a very chalky white colored skin

2133
01:26:33,669 --> 01:26:31,360
his head was almost football shaped

2134
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:33,679
much more elongated it's still you know

2135
01:26:37,350 --> 01:26:35,440
bulbous in the back but more elongated

2136
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:37,360
his eyes were much more round and closer

2137
01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:38,960
together than what you see on like a

2138
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:40,880
typical gray

2139
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:43,920
drawing or picture um he looked very

2140
01:26:48,790 --> 01:26:46,239
much like a very very tall e.t

2141
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,800
you know if you watch the movie e.t

2142
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:50,480
that's very similar to what this guy

2143
01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:51,360
looked like

2144
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,440
um and he actually taught me how to

2145
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:57,840
manipulate gravity i don't know how i

2146
01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:59,360
really wish i could that would make me

2147
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:00,480
way less

2148
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:03,440
that would be fun but he you know and i

2149
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:04,080
would fly

2150
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:06,880
i was able to fly through the room and

2151
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:08,400
and then i remember him getting really

2152
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:10,320
irritated like no come on come back down

2153
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:11,840
it's time to stop playing because we're

2154
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:14,639
gonna learn something else and he uh was

2155
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:16,080
helping me learn about the different

2156
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:17,760
energy centers in the body like the

2157
01:27:22,390 --> 01:27:19,360
chakras and i could feel

2158
01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,400
them activate and vibrate and

2159
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,880
um it was at this point that yvonne's

2160
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:26,480
like okay what happened next and

2161
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:28,239
and the vibration would just get bigger

2162
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:29,840
and bigger and i'm like i don't i don't

2163
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:31,440
know i'm just feeling vibrating i'm just

2164
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:32,560
vibrating and she's like well what

2165
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:33,440
happens next

2166
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:35,920
i i couldn't go any further so we

2167
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:37,840
stopped at that at that point so i don't

2168
01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:38,800
know if

2169
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:41,280
i was blocking it if it just wasn't time

2170
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:43,040
or or what i don't know

2171
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:45,040
i just could not proceed any further in

2172
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:46,960
the um

2173
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:50,000
in the regression itself we're uh very

2174
01:27:54,550 --> 01:27:51,679
close to a break

2175
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:54,560
and uh kim just posted uh you may have

2176
01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:56,159
seen me glance over

2177
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:59,199
in twitter um which is

2178
01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:00,960
uh going to be part of what we're going

2179
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:03,120
to talk about next she said

2180
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:06,480
um any experiences that didn't require

2181
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:15,430
and and i i want you to think about that

2182
01:28:19,510 --> 01:28:18,639
because when we come back uh i i want to

2183
01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:19,520
jump into that

2184
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:21,920
and the uh the other question that i

2185
01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:23,679
have to follow up with what you just

2186
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:24,639
said

2187
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:28,080
um was the ship is big

2188
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:31,120
on the outside as what you were seeing

2189
01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:35,040
on the inside did the two make sense

2190
01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:37,280
right no they don't yeah no absolutely

2191
01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:38,239
they don't

2192
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:42,080
the size of that gymnasium area that i

2193
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:44,639
remember being and looked so much bigger

2194
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,560
than the ship itself

2195
01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:48,480
and you have to ask i've heard this so

2196
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:50,639
many times right

2197
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:53,679
how is that possible did you think about

2198
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:55,120
that

2199
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:57,280
no i didn't um at the time i never

2200
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:58,639
thought about that but um

2201
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:01,520
being a doctor who fan it it really

2202
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:02,960
makes a lot of sense if you think about

2203
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:04,159
the tardis

2204
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:06,000
ship that he uses it's like a pocket

2205
01:29:08,629 --> 01:29:07,920
universe they say you go into it and

2206
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:08,639
there's

2207
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:11,840
this huge space and so a lot of what i

2208
01:29:14,950 --> 01:29:12,239
think

2209
01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:14,960
are these experiences that we have are

2210
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,520
not

2211
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:17,360
necessarily interstellar but

2212
01:29:22,229 --> 01:29:18,880
interdimensional

2213
01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:22,239
i was uh reading uh michio kaku's latest

2214
01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:22,960
book

2215
01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:26,320
i've been doing it all week and that is

2216
01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:29,360
one of the subjects that he talks about

2217
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:30,560
another physicist

2218
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:34,480
in in the 70s wrote this theory

2219
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:38,000
uh about your

2220
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,960
bedroom or a small room but you know the

2221
01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:42,159
bedroom is what he

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01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:45,600
uses as an example repeats

2223
01:29:53,270 --> 01:29:48,880
on each wall okay

2224
01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:53,280
all right in that

2225
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:57,440
the universe is actually can be the size

2226
01:30:02,790 --> 01:30:00,880
of your room now

2227
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:02,800
and that's exactly what you're

2228
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:03,920
explaining to

2229
01:30:09,189 --> 01:30:06,960
me right now in that you don't know

2230
01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:09,199
the theory and the paper that this

2231
01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:10,960
physicist wrote

2232
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:14,320
but if you could imagine for a second

2233
01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:17,360
you standing in the room and you reach

2234
01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:18,800
out

2235
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:22,400
uh to your left then on the other side

2236
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:24,719
of that wall is another you

2237
01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:27,360
doing the same thing and eventually is

2238
01:30:31,750 --> 01:30:28,800
going to come back through

2239
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:31,760
the wall on the right and you could

2240
01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:33,440
reach out and touch yourself

2241
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:35,679
if you did you would touch yourself on

2242
01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:36,800
the back

2243
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:38,719
and that the universe is like that

2244
01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:40,320
everything

2245
01:30:44,629 --> 01:30:43,120
expands out uh beyond that and that's

2246
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:44,639
what you're describing with the ship

2247
01:30:47,189 --> 01:30:46,400
it's fascinating to me fascinating

2248
01:30:48,629 --> 01:30:47,199
subject

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01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:48,639
let's take our break right here this is

2250
01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:50,320
fade to block our guest tonight aaron

2251
01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:51,440
montgomery

2252
01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:54,000
got lots more to talk about i've warned

2253
01:30:57,910 --> 01:30:55,360
everybody we're going to try to get it

2254
01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:57,920
all in tonight aaron and i know

2255
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we've got too much to cover but we're

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going to get it all in we'll be right

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back after this short break this is

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faded black i'm yours jimmy church stay

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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[Applause]

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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jimmy church this is

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ciao

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[Music]

2316
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:47,199
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2317
01:34:50,149 --> 01:34:49,280
jimmy church tonight aaron montgomery is

2318
01:34:52,149 --> 01:34:50,159
here

2319
01:34:54,629 --> 01:34:52,159
more with aaron in just a second but you

2320
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know i need to talk to you about virtual

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shield

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today you need a vpn

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this studio i talk about the gear i talk

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about all of the computers that are in

2326
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here just got an apc

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down there yeah i need an apc gonna get

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plugged into that

2329
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everything runs on virtual shield i'm in

2330
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an undisclosed location

2331
01:35:23,510 --> 01:35:22,000
nobody knows where i'm at nobody can

2332
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find me and you're not gonna find me

2333
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:24,960
through my isp

2334
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it's not gonna happen i have virtual

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shield on all of these computers

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drew runs virtual shield there's no way

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01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:32,480
to chase this down and i

2338
01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:35,520
want it that way it is designed from the

2339
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ground up there is a strict no

2340
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log policy that's it there are no logs

2341
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there are encrypted servers all around

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the world that hide where

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you are at and encrypt all of your

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have

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today in today's world people are spying

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on you and taking your information

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you can do that you can go to virtual

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off right now do it click on the link

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below this is fade to black i'm here to

2362
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:25,199
be church our guest tonight erin

2363
01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:26,320
montgomery

2364
01:36:33,430 --> 01:36:29,760
and aaron right before the break um

2365
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:33,440
oh i wanted to say uh that uh this is

2366
01:36:36,709 --> 01:36:35,040
what is interesting for me in this

2367
01:36:39,910 --> 01:36:36,719
conversation tonight

2368
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:39,920
um you and i met a couple of months ago

2369
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:43,040
it's been a couple of months now and

2370
01:36:49,350 --> 01:36:46,560
uh i think we had dinner and drinks

2371
01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:49,360
i was certainly buying drinks right okay

2372
01:36:51,270 --> 01:36:49,760
yes

2373
01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:51,280
we were buying drinks i was buying

2374
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:52,960
drinks for everybody and

2375
01:36:57,590 --> 01:36:55,840
uh i was engaged with other

2376
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:57,600
conversations we met

2377
01:37:02,550 --> 01:37:00,560
and you were sitting uh to my left uh

2378
01:37:05,669 --> 01:37:02,560
for two three four hours

2379
01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:05,679
and we didn't get a chance to talk

2380
01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:07,440
and that's what's so great about this

2381
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:09,280
show tonight and

2382
01:37:12,790 --> 01:37:12,080
and uh because we're talking for the

2383
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:12,800
first time

2384
01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:14,560
and and i really enjoy that the other

2385
01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:17,040
part is you're not on the show tonight

2386
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:18,719
because of that night

2387
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:21,840
you're on because of another group

2388
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:25,840
of friends brought us together and

2389
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:27,760
and i was excited about the show and

2390
01:37:32,390 --> 01:37:29,119
then you shot me an email he

2391
01:37:34,950 --> 01:37:32,400
he church doofus we hung out

2392
01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:34,960
last night i was like oh that's right

2393
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:36,400
and it was just so

2394
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:39,840
funny um uh that uh

2395
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:42,320
i didn't make the connection i i didn't

2396
01:37:45,430 --> 01:37:42,960
make it

2397
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:45,440
and i made it instantly when you

2398
01:37:49,510 --> 01:37:47,440
reminded me but that was just

2399
01:37:51,669 --> 01:37:49,520
that was just hilarious threw me under

2400
01:37:53,750 --> 01:37:51,679
the bus with an email

2401
01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:53,760
yeah that was great that was great um

2402
01:37:58,870 --> 01:37:55,440
okay so right before the break

2403
01:38:02,229 --> 01:37:58,880
uh kim posted up in in twitter saying uh

2404
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:02,239
asking okay regressions are great but

2405
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:05,040
what about uh things that didn't have to

2406
01:38:09,270 --> 01:38:06,880
be recalled

2407
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:09,280
um and i loved your reaction you just

2408
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:11,679
you burst it out with laughter

2409
01:38:16,149 --> 01:38:15,040
so how how how does how does the contact

2410
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:16,159
happen

2411
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:18,480
and we have the two you know the age of

2412
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:19,440
seven and the

2413
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:21,360
age of ten and those two sessions with

2414
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:22,480
yvonne

2415
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:25,840
um but what about uh the

2416
01:38:32,149 --> 01:38:29,440
how do i say this is real yeah real life

2417
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:32,159
contact we'll go with that right

2418
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:33,600
conscious recall how's that

2419
01:38:39,189 --> 01:38:36,880
yeah sure sure yes you're the clinical

2420
01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:39,199
therapist i'm not

2421
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:40,960
i would call it conscious recall but i

2422
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:42,719
don't necessarily know where i came up

2423
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:43,679
with that term

2424
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:46,320
but yeah there's there are many many

2425
01:38:52,390 --> 01:38:49,040
instances where i remember contact and

2426
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:52,400
most of this happens in my bedroom

2427
01:38:58,229 --> 01:38:55,600
while i'm in bed i suspect

2428
01:38:59,830 --> 01:38:58,239
contact happening outside of the home

2429
01:39:01,270 --> 01:38:59,840
like while driving and things like that

2430
01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:01,280
but i don't have

2431
01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:04,239
i don't have enough details to um pull

2432
01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:05,679
it all together to say yes something

2433
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:07,360
happened to me on this date

2434
01:39:14,229 --> 01:39:10,800
but um you know in

2435
01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:14,239
2012 2013 that first time i met yvonne

2436
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:18,400
that night i had an event happen

2437
01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:20,800
that kind of sparked me needing to see

2438
01:39:26,229 --> 01:39:21,600
her

2439
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:26,239
in 2015. and it was my surprise that i

2440
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:27,040
did not go

2441
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:29,840
to that particular thing that happened

2442
01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:30,880
to me on that night

2443
01:39:34,070 --> 01:39:32,560
and instead of went back to seven years

2444
01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:34,080
old it surprised me

2445
01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:36,719
so what happened in uh on that night is

2446
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:38,159
i woke up

2447
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:41,040
being maneuvered outside of my room like

2448
01:39:44,950 --> 01:39:42,639
i'm being taken through the wall

2449
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:44,960
under the window and i was in some sort

2450
01:39:49,109 --> 01:39:46,000
of strange

2451
01:39:51,189 --> 01:39:49,119
like gurney um and it came it was

2452
01:39:53,189 --> 01:39:51,199
like material and it was wrapped up

2453
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:53,199
around my head kind of and i felt really

2454
01:39:56,149 --> 01:39:54,480
enclosed and i

2455
01:39:57,590 --> 01:39:56,159
i remember thinking to myself this is

2456
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:57,600
really odd

2457
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:00,400
interesting here i go you know and i

2458
01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:02,560
felt a very familiar presence

2459
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:04,639
with me and i i do believe it's that

2460
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:05,840
same female

2461
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:09,520
that i've seen before and um

2462
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:12,159
just standing behind me as we're walking

2463
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,800
out

2464
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:14,880
and then you know things kind of go

2465
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:16,560
black i don't remember anything else

2466
01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:18,400
until

2467
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:22,080
i wake up with excruciating pain across

2468
01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:25,840
my lower abdomen and and i try to sit up

2469
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:26,960
because i'm hurting and you know you

2470
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:28,400
just want to kind of cuddle in

2471
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:30,960
and and hold yourself but i couldn't

2472
01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:32,639
because i was strapped down

2473
01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:34,400
and i was strapped down not on one of

2474
01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:36,480
those plain

2475
01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:40,000
surgical tables that you think of in a

2476
01:40:43,830 --> 01:40:41,920
you know if you're thinking et

2477
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:43,840
ufo experiences you're just on this

2478
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:45,520
clinical surgical

2479
01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:48,719
completely sanitized

2480
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:51,040
area no it was like a cot like a

2481
01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:52,480
military cot

2482
01:40:56,470 --> 01:40:54,960
or something like that and it was i just

2483
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:56,480
remember feeling gross

2484
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:00,320
and um just trying to get my bearings

2485
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:03,440
i'm in an underground area the walls are

2486
01:41:07,270 --> 01:41:05,840
rock like it's been blasted out or

2487
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:07,280
something hollowed out

2488
01:41:11,830 --> 01:41:10,800
um and i can see like filing cabinets

2489
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:11,840
along the wall

2490
01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:15,840
and just i can't move my head is

2491
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,480
not tied down but i can't maneuver a lot

2492
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:20,880
i see that there's other beds around me

2493
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:24,080
with women in them also and i can hear

2494
01:41:30,470 --> 01:41:27,360
yelling and and crying and

2495
01:41:31,430 --> 01:41:30,480
that one female being is at my shoulder

2496
01:41:34,629 --> 01:41:31,440
still and i see

2497
01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:34,639
down at my feet um

2498
01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:36,159
i can't see my lower legs because

2499
01:41:38,390 --> 01:41:37,679
there's like a surgical tent kind of

2500
01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:38,400
over my

2501
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:40,320
belly you know how they do that in a

2502
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:42,000
surgical um

2503
01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:43,760
situation while they put a little tint

2504
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:46,080
up and kind of keep things sanitized

2505
01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:48,960
but at my feet at the very end of the

2506
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:50,000
bed there are

2507
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:53,360
two really tall gray um well not really

2508
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:53,920
tall but

2509
01:41:57,669 --> 01:41:56,159
tall for a gray let's say maybe between

2510
01:42:01,350 --> 01:41:57,679
four and five feet tall

2511
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:01,360
gray beings and they are

2512
01:42:05,189 --> 01:42:04,239
doing something and you know i have

2513
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:05,199
children i know

2514
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:06,480
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

2515
01:42:12,149 --> 01:42:09,040
wait wait wait wait

2516
01:42:16,229 --> 01:42:12,159
pump the brakes okay

2517
01:42:19,750 --> 01:42:16,239
this feels uh

2518
01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:19,760
like child were even stirrups

2519
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:22,159
i don't remember stirrups but i my legs

2520
01:42:25,910 --> 01:42:23,280
were you know

2521
01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:25,920
in that position right in that position

2522
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:28,000
i have had children i know what labor

2523
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:29,440
feels like and that is what this felt

2524
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:32,400
like however i was not pregnant

2525
01:42:39,910 --> 01:42:36,639
that i was aware of so you're exposed

2526
01:42:43,750 --> 01:42:39,920
and there are two beings facing

2527
01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:43,760
your exposed areas and you see this

2528
01:42:47,109 --> 01:42:44,800
going on

2529
01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:47,119
is this a holy crap moment i mean are

2530
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:48,960
you freaking out

2531
01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:51,360
i was freaking out but i couldn't do

2532
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:52,800
anything about it i couldn't

2533
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:55,760
i was i was stuck to the bed i could not

2534
01:42:59,830 --> 01:42:56,000
get

2535
01:43:02,870 --> 01:42:59,840
up um i was in

2536
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:02,880
so much pain so much pain

2537
01:43:06,390 --> 01:43:05,840
um just you know it felt like like going

2538
01:43:08,629 --> 01:43:06,400
you know

2539
01:43:10,709 --> 01:43:08,639
having a contraction and it hurt really

2540
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:10,719
bad and i was confused i was

2541
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,199
not pregnant as far as i knew i wasn't

2542
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:15,040
even sexually active so there wasn't a

2543
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:16,719
way i could have been

2544
01:43:21,669 --> 01:43:19,600
pregnant so there was you know the fear

2545
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:21,679
the pain and the confusion all mixed in

2546
01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:22,480
together

2547
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:26,080
and then i see this being approaching me

2548
01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:28,800
kind of from the left-hand side of my

2549
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:29,360
vision

2550
01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:33,040
and uh he was a human

2551
01:43:37,270 --> 01:43:34,960
or at least he appeared human and he was

2552
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:37,280
in military garb

2553
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:40,400
he was in fatigues and he had on a white

2554
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:42,960
lab coat and he was carrying a clipboard

2555
01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:46,880
he was an older man maybe late 60s

2556
01:43:52,229 --> 01:43:49,040
or mid 60s something like that white

2557
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:52,239
hair buzz cut

2558
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:55,280
walking around the room and i tried to

2559
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:56,639
calling out to him hey get me out of

2560
01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:57,840
here what's going on i don't know i'm

2561
01:44:02,149 --> 01:43:58,800
scared and

2562
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:02,159
he glanced at me and glanced away

2563
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:04,080
and kept on about his business and i

2564
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:05,920
think that out of everything that i have

2565
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:06,800
experienced

2566
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:09,040
this right here is the most horrific and

2567
01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:11,119
it's not necessarily the childbirth

2568
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:11,920
which was awful

2569
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:13,840
it's not necessarily the et's which is

2570
01:44:20,149 --> 01:44:16,639
scary it was that human

2571
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:20,159
or seeming human not caring

2572
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:24,480
not caring now um okay

2573
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:28,000
not on a ship you're on terra firma

2574
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:30,080
you're somewhere on earth

2575
01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:33,199
right probably pretty yeah probably

2576
01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:34,080
pretty close to your

2577
01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:37,280
home um uh

2578
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:41,440
underground and i'm just putting all the

2579
01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:42,080
pieces

2580
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:45,280
together here and then

2581
01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:46,880
you know filing cabinets is an

2582
01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:48,400
interesting thing to say

2583
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:52,159
right so that a military-style cot or a

2584
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:53,920
cot

2585
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:57,440
that is human that's earthling

2586
01:45:01,310 --> 01:45:00,080
stuff that you're saying it wasn't a

2587
01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:01,320
stainless steel

2588
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:04,400
sanitized examination table on a

2589
01:45:09,189 --> 01:45:05,840
starship

2590
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:09,199
right this is something else this is a

2591
01:45:14,149 --> 01:45:12,159
cot with material

2592
01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:14,159
with human things and underground you

2593
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:16,080
see the rock walls and then you

2594
01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:19,199
see a human

2595
01:45:25,590 --> 01:45:22,480
so this is a this is a very very

2596
01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:25,600
interesting situation also i think you

2597
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:26,320
mentioned

2598
01:45:30,229 --> 01:45:28,320
there were multiple cats and a lot of

2599
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:30,239
women in this room

2600
01:45:35,830 --> 01:45:33,679
some some were screaming yeah right

2601
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:35,840
okay experiencing the same kind of stuff

2602
01:45:41,189 --> 01:45:38,159
i was i believe

2603
01:45:44,870 --> 01:45:41,199
now um you mentioned childbirth

2604
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:44,880
so let's go in this direction it feels

2605
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,920
like that to me i don't want to put

2606
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:49,040
words in your mouth

2607
01:45:55,350 --> 01:45:52,560
or or say anything offensive

2608
01:45:56,709 --> 01:45:55,360
to the audience um there are children

2609
01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:56,719
listening to as well

2610
01:46:02,950 --> 01:45:59,920
but this is a very very

2611
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:02,960
intense uh situation that you find

2612
01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:04,400
yourself in

2613
01:46:09,189 --> 01:46:07,600
you had a pain from your abdomen there's

2614
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:09,199
something going on

2615
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:14,320
let's continue there was there

2616
01:46:18,149 --> 01:46:16,400
a fetus involved i don't know i don't

2617
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:18,159
know what where i'm going with this with

2618
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:19,520
my thoughts

2619
01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:21,840
uh yes i do believe there is a fetus

2620
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:22,960
involved but i cannot

2621
01:46:26,709 --> 01:46:25,360
you know at this point i don't remember

2622
01:46:28,310 --> 01:46:26,719
um

2623
01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:28,320
i i wrote about it it's almost like i

2624
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,760
have to pull out my book and say what

2625
01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:31,600
did i remember at the time that i wrote

2626
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:33,280
and that's the wonderful thing about

2627
01:46:37,430 --> 01:46:35,600
these these trauma memories they fade in

2628
01:46:40,149 --> 01:46:37,440
and out

2629
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:40,159
but it was my understanding that a baby

2630
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:41,520
was removed at this time

2631
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:44,560
now this is not

2632
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:48,480
um an isolated incident as far as

2633
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:50,800
fetuses and you know and this is

2634
01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:51,840
something that is

2635
01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:54,480
hugely important in the contact realms

2636
01:46:57,750 --> 01:46:56,159
and i think that it needs to be talked

2637
01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:57,760
about a lot more

2638
01:47:02,390 --> 01:47:00,159
um but the the fact that i was

2639
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:02,400
underground and it was scary and i

2640
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:05,199
hurt and there was a human involved it

2641
01:47:07,910 --> 01:47:06,960
puts it in a completely different realm

2642
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:07,920
sure does

2643
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:12,880
yeah now okay if there was

2644
01:47:19,750 --> 01:47:16,719
a fetus involved where

2645
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:19,760
who's the father let's back up

2646
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:22,400
let's back this up something happened a

2647
01:47:27,189 --> 01:47:25,199
few months before

2648
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:27,199
right there had to have been something

2649
01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:28,880
that happened a few months before but i

2650
01:47:32,629 --> 01:47:29,760
was

2651
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:32,639
not seeing anybody at that time right

2652
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:33,280
and

2653
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:36,000
this is nothing that you remember

2654
01:47:39,750 --> 01:47:36,560
correct

2655
01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:39,760
okay did you okay

2656
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:42,480
what let's do that what happened after

2657
01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:47,510
i you know that is about the end of the

2658
01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:49,040
experience i remember i just kind of

2659
01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:50,159
went blank and back

2660
01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:53,520
you know out and then when i was i woke

2661
01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:54,480
up in the morning

2662
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:57,119
in my bed i thought either i was i just

2663
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:59,119
had the scariest nightmare i've ever had

2664
01:48:01,430 --> 01:48:00,480
my entire life or something just

2665
01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:01,440
happened

2666
01:48:08,629 --> 01:48:04,960
um and my eyes

2667
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:08,639
hurt my eyes hurt and they were burning

2668
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:11,119
and i looked in the mirror and they were

2669
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:13,600
so swollen like i had been crying and

2670
01:48:16,629 --> 01:48:15,840
crying for hours i had broken blood

2671
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:16,639
vessels

2672
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:18,639
you know like little red spots all over

2673
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:20,719
the inside of my eyelids

2674
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:23,520
um you know up here where you put makeup

2675
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:23,840
on

2676
01:48:27,990 --> 01:48:26,560
down across the bottom of my eyes over

2677
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:28,000
the bridge of my nose

2678
01:48:31,030 --> 01:48:29,840
and that happens to me when i cry and

2679
01:48:34,229 --> 01:48:31,040
cry and cry like an

2680
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:34,239
uncontrollable awful sob

2681
01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:36,400
session that's what happens my eyelids

2682
01:48:40,629 --> 01:48:37,520
were puffy

2683
01:48:42,790 --> 01:48:40,639
um my abdomen hurt

2684
01:48:45,590 --> 01:48:42,800
like i had you know just i was like

2685
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:45,600
cramping kind of feeling and then

2686
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:48,320
i had the fingerprint bruises on the

2687
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:50,000
inside of my thighs

2688
01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:52,480
and so i was like okay okay that okay

2689
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:53,520
that really happened

2690
01:48:56,950 --> 01:48:55,920
and and it was at that point in time

2691
01:48:58,790 --> 01:48:56,960
that um

2692
01:49:00,229 --> 01:48:58,800
i started losing sleep was afraid to go

2693
01:49:01,669 --> 01:49:00,239
to bed you know wouldn't turn out the

2694
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:01,679
lights and all of that

2695
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:05,520
which prompted my um wanting

2696
01:49:09,510 --> 01:49:07,600
to see yvonne for that first time you

2697
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:09,520
know a few years later it built up

2698
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:13,440
but um yeah so it was surprising

2699
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:15,199
like i said it's very surprising to me

2700
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:16,960
that that moment did not come up in the

2701
01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:18,320
regressions

2702
01:49:21,830 --> 01:49:20,800
uh that original regression to say bring

2703
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:21,840
take me to the

2704
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:23,440
the beginning of the trauma which i

2705
01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:24,960
thought was that but it wasn't to

2706
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:28,239
it happened when i was a kid but um yeah

2707
01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:30,960
that moment has never left me and that

2708
01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:31,679
horror

2709
01:49:36,070 --> 01:49:34,400
that i have felt of a human not caring

2710
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:36,080
about what was going on really has

2711
01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:38,560
it just it just sticks sticks with me

2712
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:39,679
and won't go away

2713
01:49:43,589 --> 01:49:41,119
well i want to ask you something

2714
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:43,599
personal um i'm sure this has come up

2715
01:49:47,830 --> 01:49:44,560
before

2716
01:49:48,390 --> 01:49:47,840
were you having up to this moment and of

2717
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:48,400
course

2718
01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:51,280
after but were you having your monthly

2719
01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:52,159
women

2720
01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:56,719
stuff i cannot remember

2721
01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:01,119
if i was on i think i was i mean there

2722
01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:03,119
was a long stint that i was on birth

2723
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:04,400
control that stopped

2724
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:06,719
menses so i don't know um but i i don't

2725
01:50:10,709 --> 01:50:07,679
believe at that time

2726
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:10,719
period i was on anything so and then

2727
01:50:17,109 --> 01:50:14,960
after and then after it was fine

2728
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:17,119
um i don't remember any changes whether

2729
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:18,560
i was yeah i just i

2730
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:20,080
don't recall i'd have to look at my

2731
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:21,199
medical records which would be an

2732
01:50:28,550 --> 01:50:25,119
important thing to do i think mm-hmm

2733
01:50:30,790 --> 01:50:28,560
did this happen again i

2734
01:50:32,550 --> 01:50:30,800
do not remember any other times being in

2735
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:32,560
the underground facility

2736
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:35,679
do i remember being

2737
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:37,440
or having children and children

2738
01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:40,560
presented to me yes many many times

2739
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:48,310
i can think of like six or seven

2740
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:50,000
different times that i've experienced

2741
01:50:54,229 --> 01:50:51,920
that right and how does that you know

2742
01:50:57,270 --> 01:50:54,239
i've i've talked to so many

2743
01:51:01,030 --> 01:50:57,280
um experiencers uh

2744
01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:01,040
that have discussed this where

2745
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:04,000
apparently like this is a cyclical thing

2746
01:51:10,709 --> 01:51:06,880
i mean it's a non-ending

2747
01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:10,719
you know this is like twice a year right

2748
01:51:15,669 --> 01:51:13,840
right right and it seems like i

2749
01:51:17,109 --> 01:51:15,679
i think i'm only remembering a part of

2750
01:51:18,149 --> 01:51:17,119
it you know i'm not remembering

2751
01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:18,159
everything that happens

2752
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:20,080
or you know that's something in my head

2753
01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:21,760
like maybe it's just a constant thing

2754
01:51:25,589 --> 01:51:23,199
and i just don't know

2755
01:51:26,709 --> 01:51:25,599
but there are several several times i

2756
01:51:29,990 --> 01:51:26,719
remember

2757
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:30,000
um you know giving birth and and then

2758
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:32,000
holding the child and oftentimes they

2759
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:34,080
are so tiny they just fit into the

2760
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:37,119
to the palm of your hand how many uh

2761
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:39,599
how many how many how many how many

2762
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:40,719
alien babies

2763
01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:47,270
space babies yes how many space how many

2764
01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:48,960
star children

2765
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:51,440
uh like i said around six or seven times

2766
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:52,480
or six or seven

2767
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:54,400
children that i i can remember and like

2768
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:56,080
i have names for

2769
01:52:01,430 --> 01:52:00,000
which is wild um but i have a suspicion

2770
01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:01,440
that there's many others

2771
01:52:05,669 --> 01:52:03,280
so you know this you know how crazy this

2772
01:52:08,709 --> 01:52:05,679
sounds like

2773
01:52:13,189 --> 01:52:08,719
you know and but i've talked to so many

2774
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:13,199
women that are having these experiences

2775
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:15,599
the question i have to ask is is is

2776
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:17,360
everybody nuts

2777
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:20,639
am i equally as nuts for

2778
01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:24,800
listening and accepting

2779
01:52:28,390 --> 01:52:27,840
right i've i've had my crazy experiences

2780
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:28,400
too

2781
01:52:32,149 --> 01:52:30,960
well i haven't had any alien babies yet

2782
01:52:35,189 --> 01:52:32,159
but

2783
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:35,199
the point is this either everybody's

2784
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:36,400
crazy

2785
01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:40,080
or there is a human hybrid

2786
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:44,480
alien program going on that appears

2787
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:48,480
that the united states military

2788
01:52:54,550 --> 01:52:52,080
is engaging in as well and that's

2789
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:54,560
probably as scary as all of this as we

2790
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:55,280
start to put

2791
01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:57,360
all of this together but that is

2792
01:53:02,070 --> 01:53:00,159
apparently what is going on

2793
01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:02,080
yeah i am not the only person that has

2794
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:04,320
stories that are exactly like this

2795
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:07,360
and i know people from the age of 77 all

2796
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:08,080
the way down

2797
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:09,679
you know into their 20s that have

2798
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:11,280
experienced these things

2799
01:53:16,390 --> 01:53:13,760
and and we just keep talking you know

2800
01:53:18,310 --> 01:53:16,400
and i think that it's important and

2801
01:53:20,070 --> 01:53:18,320
and honestly it feels like one of the

2802
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:20,080
things that i need to be talking about

2803
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:20,719
you know

2804
01:53:28,149 --> 01:53:25,760
and getting this out there maybe more

2805
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:28,159
normalizing it even though it is

2806
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:31,280
so incredibly crazy the

2807
01:53:37,189 --> 01:53:34,480
the um the response to this what

2808
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:37,199
uh what has that been like and we'll

2809
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:39,199
continue after the break but

2810
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:42,560
what has the response been i

2811
01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:45,440
have had nothing but positive

2812
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:46,639
experiences

2813
01:53:53,270 --> 01:53:50,320
through this um this coming out

2814
01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:53,280
you know of the star closet you know for

2815
01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:55,679
lack of any other terms um

2816
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:58,320
people telling me oh my gosh i've had

2817
01:54:01,910 --> 01:53:59,920
experiences like that or

2818
01:54:03,189 --> 01:54:01,920
wow this is a fascinating story i'm

2819
01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:03,199
really glad you

2820
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:05,840
are telling the truth um even embracing

2821
01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:06,239
me

2822
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:09,599
in the in the clinical realms wanting

2823
01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:12,719
me to do more work with them on these

2824
01:54:17,270 --> 01:54:14,000
subjects and so

2825
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:17,280
um you know i've had i've had my share

2826
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:18,560
of trolls but it

2827
01:54:23,350 --> 01:54:21,440
very minimal in in comparison to i think

2828
01:54:24,950 --> 01:54:23,360
that a lot of others have it it has been

2829
01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:24,960
a very positive

2830
01:54:31,350 --> 01:54:28,080
did you did you ever think that

2831
01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:31,360
uh you were the only one right that

2832
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:33,920
that this couldn't be going on in mass

2833
01:54:39,189 --> 01:54:34,880
around the world

2834
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:39,199
this is something that is unique to you

2835
01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:42,960
i did not realize that there were

2836
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:44,400
anybody else that would have

2837
01:54:48,229 --> 01:54:46,239
these kinds of experiences until i

2838
01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:48,239
started going to the ufo festival and

2839
01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:49,199
listening to

2840
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:52,159
the lectures and saying that oh my gosh

2841
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:53,520
there are so many

2842
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:55,199
people that are saying the same thing as

2843
01:55:00,310 --> 01:54:56,880
me and that really

2844
01:55:04,149 --> 01:55:00,320
shifted my understanding of you know

2845
01:55:07,990 --> 01:55:04,159
how huge this really is what's the

2846
01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:08,000
what's the the million-dollar question

2847
01:55:13,030 --> 01:55:11,440
what's the purpose what what's the end

2848
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:13,040
game here

2849
01:55:16,470 --> 01:55:15,280
i don't know i don't know i don't know

2850
01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:16,480
if any of us can know

2851
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:18,239
i mean there's several different beings

2852
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:19,840
already on this show that i've i've

2853
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:21,280
talked about seeing

2854
01:55:24,390 --> 01:55:22,960
and i'm sure that every single one of

2855
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:24,400
those not only

2856
01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:26,320
species but individuals has their own

2857
01:55:30,550 --> 01:55:28,080
agenda

2858
01:55:31,990 --> 01:55:30,560
i don't know i know that the dna is

2859
01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:32,000
important for whatever reason

2860
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:34,080
why else would they follow family lines

2861
01:55:38,470 --> 01:55:35,199
right

2862
01:55:40,149 --> 01:55:38,480
um i wanted to ask you about that

2863
01:55:43,669 --> 01:55:40,159
we've got a little bit of time let's

2864
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:43,679
circle back is it blood type

2865
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:47,360
um maybe um i don't have that oh

2866
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:48,800
negative that everybody thinks

2867
01:55:52,149 --> 01:55:51,280
right or that you know i i'm i think i'm

2868
01:55:55,270 --> 01:55:52,159
o positive

2869
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:55,280
so that's not it um as far as me

2870
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:57,360
personally i i don't exactly know what

2871
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:58,880
it is about

2872
01:56:02,629 --> 01:56:01,199
um these particular genetic lines but i

2873
01:56:04,629 --> 01:56:02,639
know that my family's not the only one

2874
01:56:06,390 --> 01:56:04,639
there's many other families that have

2875
01:56:08,149 --> 01:56:06,400
the same amount of generations that i've

2876
01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:08,159
talked to so

2877
01:56:15,750 --> 01:56:11,360
yeah the uh

2878
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:15,760
the program if uh if it is going on

2879
01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:19,679
certainly didn't start in in 1950 it

2880
01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:21,599
didn't start in 2000 didn't start in

2881
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:22,800
2012.

2882
01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:24,880
it's probably been going on for hundreds

2883
01:56:30,310 --> 01:56:26,080
of thousands of years

2884
01:56:31,990 --> 01:56:30,320
long time

2885
01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:32,000
uh what do you think about those

2886
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:34,320
thoughts this isn't a modern

2887
01:56:38,950 --> 01:56:36,960
situation that we find ourselves in and

2888
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:38,960
not only is it generational

2889
01:56:46,070 --> 01:56:42,480
but it could be going back millennia

2890
01:56:47,750 --> 01:56:46,080
right and i think that i don't know if

2891
01:56:49,589 --> 01:56:47,760
like humans are evolving to the point

2892
01:56:49,990 --> 01:56:49,599
where they can comprehend what's going

2893
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:50,000
on

2894
01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:53,520
beings to

2895
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:56,560
allow it to be seen and to be known

2896
01:56:59,830 --> 01:56:59,520
um i would like to i would i so wish i

2897
01:57:02,070 --> 01:56:59,840
had

2898
01:57:03,589 --> 01:57:02,080
information from ancestors besides my

2899
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:03,599
grandparents i want to go further back

2900
01:57:08,390 --> 01:57:04,800
but i can't

2901
01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:08,400
like tell me some more um but i think

2902
01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:09,520
that i lost my

2903
01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:14,480
train of thought going back millennia

2904
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:16,400
yeah i think that i really think that

2905
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:17,920
that's exactly what's going on and it

2906
01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:18,719
makes you wonder

2907
01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:20,480
are they the but created humans in the

2908
01:57:25,910 --> 01:57:22,080
first place well you know

2909
01:57:29,830 --> 01:57:25,920
um look i'm okay

2910
01:57:33,270 --> 01:57:29,840
with saying we're all aliens

2911
01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:33,280
right i mean by this point uh we

2912
01:57:37,990 --> 01:57:35,840
came from somewhere we were probably

2913
01:57:41,430 --> 01:57:38,000
brought here on a meteorite

2914
01:57:42,229 --> 01:57:41,440
i am sure so there's that part that dna

2915
01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:42,239
is

2916
01:57:49,030 --> 01:57:46,880
there's the other part for me

2917
01:57:50,550 --> 01:57:49,040
which is hard science and that is homo

2918
01:57:53,109 --> 01:57:50,560
sapien sapien

2919
01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:53,119
just appeared here 200 000 years ago

2920
01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:55,920
there isn't any evolutionary process

2921
01:58:00,229 --> 01:57:57,920
uh before that there's nothing in the

2922
01:58:02,070 --> 01:58:00,239
arc archaeological record

2923
01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:02,080
that would suggest this is where we came

2924
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:05,040
from we just showed up 200 000 years ago

2925
01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:06,719
and you have to ask yourself why how did

2926
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:07,840
that happen

2927
01:58:12,709 --> 01:58:10,480
was it alien intervention is it what is

2928
01:58:14,470 --> 01:58:12,719
going on and continues to go on to this

2929
01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:14,480
day

2930
01:58:18,470 --> 01:58:17,679
i i tend to think that myself you know

2931
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:18,480
just from

2932
01:58:22,470 --> 01:58:20,800
my own experiences and and understanding

2933
01:58:25,350 --> 01:58:22,480
that this this is here and this

2934
01:58:26,390 --> 01:58:25,360
is here to stay and it's been here for a

2935
01:58:27,830 --> 01:58:26,400
long time

2936
01:58:29,430 --> 01:58:27,840
and i think that there's like an

2937
01:58:31,189 --> 01:58:29,440
interesting and this kind of little

2938
01:58:34,229 --> 01:58:31,199
off topic but there's a really

2939
01:58:35,990 --> 01:58:34,239
interesting evolution on how

2940
01:58:39,109 --> 01:58:36,000
how abductions and how contact is

2941
01:58:41,830 --> 01:58:39,119
happening is much less invasive it's

2942
01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:41,840
i think there's an evolution with these

2943
01:58:47,270 --> 01:58:44,239
et's on how they're interacting as well

2944
01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:47,280
i think that maybe agendas are unfolding

2945
01:58:50,550 --> 01:58:49,520
now as we speak yeah i got this uh

2946
01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:50,560
strange uh

2947
01:58:53,589 --> 01:58:52,480
tweet the other day from a friend of

2948
01:58:55,990 --> 01:58:53,599
mine

2949
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:56,000
uh that i've known for 35 years outside

2950
01:58:59,270 --> 01:58:57,280
of the ufo community

2951
01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:59,280
uh back in my rock and roll days and she

2952
01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:00,320
said she goes

2953
01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:02,960
jimmy and and everybody on twitter

2954
01:59:07,510 --> 01:59:05,119
probably saw this tweet and and the way

2955
01:59:10,870 --> 01:59:07,520
that she tagged me but she said jimmy

2956
01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:10,880
is et it was the strangest question to

2957
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:12,960
come out of nowhere from an old friend

2958
01:59:20,229 --> 01:59:16,159
is e.t evolving too we're evolving

2959
01:59:23,350 --> 01:59:20,239
we're learning is et different today

2960
01:59:24,709 --> 01:59:23,360
than the old versions of et that we used

2961
01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:24,719
to hear about

2962
01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:26,800
they have to be evolving right along

2963
01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:28,480
with this and it was like this

2964
01:59:32,149 --> 01:59:30,000
open-ended question

2965
01:59:33,270 --> 01:59:32,159
but it's exactly what you're saying

2966
01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:33,280
right now

2967
01:59:38,790 --> 01:59:35,599
you know and it has to be that way and

2968
01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:38,800
and my response to her aaron was

2969
01:59:46,550 --> 01:59:45,750
what they're going backwards no right

2970
01:59:49,510 --> 01:59:46,560
and

2971
01:59:50,950 --> 01:59:49,520
it's it's it's fascinating to me uh back

2972
01:59:55,109 --> 01:59:50,960
to your point

2973
01:59:57,589 --> 01:59:55,119
is that our sources of contact and how

2974
02:00:00,790 --> 01:59:57,599
it has happened including myself

2975
02:00:01,589 --> 02:00:00,800
um has changed it's not the same as it

2976
02:00:04,470 --> 02:00:01,599
was

2977
02:00:06,629 --> 02:00:04,480
with the reports that we have three four

2978
02:00:08,390 --> 02:00:06,639
five decades ago

2979
02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:08,400
right if you think about the the

2980
02:00:11,830 --> 02:00:09,760
violence that

2981
02:00:12,790 --> 02:00:11,840
was around betty and barney hill's

2982
02:00:14,790 --> 02:00:12,800
experience

2983
02:00:16,550 --> 02:00:14,800
you know her dress was ripped his shoes

2984
02:00:17,990 --> 02:00:16,560
were destroyed as he was dragged across

2985
02:00:22,310 --> 02:00:18,000
the ground and

2986
02:00:24,550 --> 02:00:22,320
you know he suffered from medical um

2987
02:00:25,350 --> 02:00:24,560
problems later in life that were very

2988
02:00:28,390 --> 02:00:25,360
much

2989
02:00:31,350 --> 02:00:28,400
ptsd type of experiences um

2990
02:00:33,589 --> 02:00:31,360
and then you know scary more scary

2991
02:00:34,709 --> 02:00:33,599
expensive experiences like with terry

2992
02:00:39,109 --> 02:00:34,719
and the

2993
02:00:40,550 --> 02:00:39,119
implants that he has that show up on

2994
02:00:42,229 --> 02:00:40,560
x-rays

2995
02:00:43,990 --> 02:00:42,239
i don't think i have anything that would

2996
02:00:45,669 --> 02:00:44,000
show up on an extra but i do know that

2997
02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:45,679
there's implants and things in my body

2998
02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:47,280
that shouldn't be there but it's not

2999
02:00:52,310 --> 02:00:48,719
going to show up

3000
02:00:54,629 --> 02:00:52,320
great can't prove it you know but

3001
02:00:56,390 --> 02:00:54,639
it changes you know the the materials

3002
02:00:58,390 --> 02:00:56,400
they use changes their their

3003
02:01:00,390 --> 02:00:58,400
means of contacting us has changed

3004
02:01:01,750 --> 02:01:00,400
they're no longer completely screening

3005
02:01:03,430 --> 02:01:01,760
things off

3006
02:01:05,109 --> 02:01:03,440
they're they're introducing things in a

3007
02:01:06,550 --> 02:01:05,119
way that keeps us calm

3008
02:01:08,470 --> 02:01:06,560
and it makes you wonder why would you

3009
02:01:10,950 --> 02:01:08,480
want to keep your subjects calm

3010
02:01:12,229 --> 02:01:10,960
when you know 40 50 years ago you didn't

3011
02:01:13,990 --> 02:01:12,239
care

3012
02:01:15,589 --> 02:01:14,000
yeah it's very interesting let's take

3013
02:01:16,870 --> 02:01:15,599
our break right here this is fade to

3014
02:01:18,070 --> 02:01:16,880
block i'm your host jimmy church our

3015
02:01:20,149 --> 02:01:18,080
guest tonight

3016
02:01:21,189 --> 02:01:20,159
aaron montgomery we're going to continue

3017
02:01:23,510 --> 02:01:21,199
this conversation

3018
02:01:25,189 --> 02:01:23,520
absolutely fascinating right after this

3019
02:01:27,990 --> 02:01:25,199
short break on the game changer network

3020
02:01:36,149 --> 02:01:28,000
and kgra the planet stay with us

3021
02:01:37,510 --> 02:01:36,159
we'll be right back

3022
02:01:43,750 --> 02:01:37,520
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3023
02:01:47,270 --> 02:01:46,229
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3025
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3029
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3030
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3031
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3126
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:16,639
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3127
02:06:20,390 --> 02:06:18,719
jimmy church tonight aaron montgomery is

3128
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with us i want to remind everybody

3129
02:06:24,629 --> 02:06:21,599
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3130
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3132
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3133
02:06:33,589 --> 02:06:32,159
dolan let's get back to our conversation

3134
02:06:36,069 --> 02:06:33,599
aaron um

3135
02:06:37,189 --> 02:06:36,079
i want to play devil's advocate for a

3136
02:06:39,669 --> 02:06:37,199
second and

3137
02:06:40,229 --> 02:06:39,679
sort of devil's advocate but there's

3138
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:40,239
another

3139
02:06:47,109 --> 02:06:43,360
part to this that needs to be explored

3140
02:06:49,430 --> 02:06:47,119
and that is um do you think

3141
02:06:51,270 --> 02:06:49,440
there is a possibility which i think is

3142
02:06:55,589 --> 02:06:51,280
equally as sinister as

3143
02:06:58,870 --> 02:06:55,599
as anything else uh with this but that

3144
02:07:02,790 --> 02:06:58,880
that the government may be

3145
02:07:06,229 --> 02:07:02,800
staging these events um

3146
02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:06,239
and to

3147
02:07:10,069 --> 02:07:09,040
make sure that the the event the

3148
02:07:13,589 --> 02:07:10,079
experience is

3149
02:07:16,310 --> 02:07:13,599
real and that the people that go

3150
02:07:17,750 --> 02:07:16,320
through it are going to go and talk

3151
02:07:20,950 --> 02:07:17,760
about it

3152
02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:20,960
and that that that it

3153
02:07:26,709 --> 02:07:24,000
that it's staged

3154
02:07:27,750 --> 02:07:26,719
well you know that is something that is

3155
02:07:29,589 --> 02:07:27,760
important to

3156
02:07:31,189 --> 02:07:29,599
pay attention to especially if i have

3157
02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:31,199
had experiences that felt very

3158
02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:32,159
government

3159
02:07:36,550 --> 02:07:34,960
or military like and you make it makes

3160
02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:36,560
you wonder why why did i have to go

3161
02:07:40,629 --> 02:07:38,320
through that did it really happen

3162
02:07:41,750 --> 02:07:40,639
was it staged and i have heard that

3163
02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:41,760
before like

3164
02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:44,800
seeing um grays that look like they're

3165
02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:46,000
in

3166
02:07:55,270 --> 02:07:51,280
like that that makes you wonder

3167
02:07:58,470 --> 02:07:55,280
um you know what exactly does this mean

3168
02:08:01,109 --> 02:07:58,480
um and and i really don't know

3169
02:08:01,990 --> 02:08:01,119
i mean it could be it could be but that

3170
02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:02,000
is going to an

3171
02:08:07,589 --> 02:08:05,199
awful lot of work to

3172
02:08:09,750 --> 02:08:07,599
for generation after generation of

3173
02:08:11,669 --> 02:08:09,760
contact to be able to say

3174
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:11,679
yeah the government has been working so

3175
02:08:16,709 --> 02:08:14,400
hard for you know 100 years

3176
02:08:18,950 --> 02:08:16,719
to make sure that this person in

3177
02:08:21,830 --> 02:08:18,960
particular will come out and talk

3178
02:08:22,870 --> 02:08:21,840
right and uh there's uh there's another

3179
02:08:25,910 --> 02:08:22,880
part of this that

3180
02:08:28,149 --> 02:08:25,920
makes me think and

3181
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:28,159
i've heard and i'm sure you've heard the

3182
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:28,960
same things

3183
02:08:32,550 --> 02:08:30,880
where somebody has an extraordinary

3184
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:32,560
sighting

3185
02:08:39,030 --> 02:08:36,000
they see a craft they report it

3186
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:39,040
and the next thing you know

3187
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:42,400
um they're being abducted they're taken

3188
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:44,320
out there's another

3189
02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:48,480
experience similar to yours that happens

3190
02:08:56,470 --> 02:08:51,760
and it's a way to

3191
02:08:58,629 --> 02:08:56,480
um uh uh discredit

3192
02:09:01,350 --> 02:08:58,639
the the real sighting that happened

3193
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:01,360
right and and now this person is

3194
02:09:06,470 --> 02:09:04,400
is talking crazy talk right and

3195
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:06,480
right it's a way to cover up something

3196
02:09:10,310 --> 02:09:08,560
that was real

3197
02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:10,320
i think i think that's the other side of

3198
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:12,000
it i mean does the government want us

3199
02:09:16,709 --> 02:09:12,560
talking

3200
02:09:18,390 --> 02:09:16,719
um to make us scapegoats or are they

3201
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:18,400
trying to hide something else

3202
02:09:23,510 --> 02:09:21,760
um and i think that um i don't know if

3203
02:09:25,910 --> 02:09:23,520
we're ever gonna know

3204
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:25,920
the truth you know behind it what what

3205
02:09:29,510 --> 02:09:27,599
is the agenda of the government what is

3206
02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:29,520
the agenda of the aliens and how do we

3207
02:09:32,229 --> 02:09:30,480
who are

3208
02:09:33,669 --> 02:09:32,239
caught in the middle of all this how are

3209
02:09:36,149 --> 02:09:33,679
we supposed to make sense of it

3210
02:09:39,669 --> 02:09:36,159
right right when was uh your last

3211
02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:43,430
uh i've had a few things happen over the

3212
02:09:47,830 --> 02:09:44,719
last couple of months

3213
02:09:48,550 --> 02:09:47,840
um you know having holding babies that

3214
02:09:49,270 --> 02:09:48,560
kind of thing

3215
02:09:52,069 --> 02:09:49,280
uh but wait wait wait wait wait wait

3216
02:09:54,950 --> 02:09:52,079
wait well well you just can't stop it

3217
02:09:55,510 --> 02:09:54,960
just say that i mean this stuff happens

3218
02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:55,520
all the time

3219
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:57,840
yeah i know i'm watching you she's like

3220
02:10:02,470 --> 02:09:59,520
well okay i've been

3221
02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:02,480
uh but no we we just can't blow past a

3222
02:10:06,390 --> 02:10:03,920
statement like that

3223
02:10:08,790 --> 02:10:06,400
right what do you mean a whole a a

3224
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:08,800
couple of months ago you held a baby

3225
02:10:14,870 --> 02:10:12,159
what happened this was

3226
02:10:16,629 --> 02:10:14,880
i was staying at my dad and stepmom's

3227
02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:16,639
house while i was looking for a place to

3228
02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:18,560
live here in montrose and so

3229
02:10:22,229 --> 02:10:20,880
i was still there so it's definitely

3230
02:10:25,430 --> 02:10:22,239
been a couple of months but

3231
02:10:29,030 --> 02:10:25,440
um i remember waking up and feeling i

3232
02:10:30,950 --> 02:10:29,040
wasn't alone in the room um

3233
02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:30,960
felt that there were beings behind me

3234
02:10:33,350 --> 02:10:32,719
and i i remember just kind of flipping

3235
02:10:34,870 --> 02:10:33,360
like

3236
02:10:36,550 --> 02:10:34,880
whatever i just i don't want to deal

3237
02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:36,560
with this right now and and going back

3238
02:10:41,830 --> 02:10:38,800
to sleep but then i also remember

3239
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:41,840
like a baby being put into my arms and

3240
02:10:44,950 --> 02:10:43,840
thinking where the head is really floppy

3241
02:10:47,510 --> 02:10:44,960
and trying to

3242
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:47,520
you know stabilize the child you know in

3243
02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:48,560
my arms

3244
02:10:52,550 --> 02:10:50,960
as you would a newborn um and then

3245
02:10:53,109 --> 02:10:52,560
thinking that was very bizarre what's

3246
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:53,119
going on

3247
02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:54,880
but that's all i have it's just little

3248
02:10:57,910 --> 02:10:56,960
bits and snippets so did something

3249
02:11:00,069 --> 02:10:57,920
happen i really

3250
02:11:01,669 --> 02:11:00,079
i really was awake and i really did feel

3251
02:11:05,030 --> 02:11:01,679
that there were beings in the room

3252
02:11:06,149 --> 02:11:05,040
so maybe if i felt that i was holding a

3253
02:11:07,589 --> 02:11:06,159
baby later that

3254
02:11:09,270 --> 02:11:07,599
really is part of the experience but

3255
02:11:11,350 --> 02:11:09,280
it's hard it's hard to tell

3256
02:11:13,750 --> 02:11:11,360
now were they doing this so you could

3257
02:11:15,830 --> 02:11:13,760
bond with your child

3258
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:15,840
i think that happens a lot i think but

3259
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:17,280
for whatever reason

3260
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:19,440
it is extremely important for the human

3261
02:11:28,470 --> 02:11:26,390
hybrid children um and and i and i hear

3262
02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:28,480
it time after time and i've experienced

3263
02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:31,520
it myself where i am brought back

3264
02:11:36,310 --> 02:11:34,400
and introduced to these children um at

3265
02:11:37,109 --> 02:11:36,320
different stages and i always know who

3266
02:11:38,870 --> 02:11:37,119
it is there's

3267
02:11:40,149 --> 02:11:38,880
one little girl in particular i remember

3268
02:11:42,950 --> 02:11:40,159
her name is nicolette

3269
02:11:43,910 --> 02:11:42,960
and i've i've i don't know if i named

3270
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:43,920
her i don't know

3271
02:11:47,510 --> 02:11:45,760
but um but you know seeing her at

3272
02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:47,520
different stages i saw her as

3273
02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:50,320
a newborn and then as a toddler and then

3274
02:11:55,270 --> 02:11:52,239
later on at about four or five

3275
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:55,280
so you know this this happens and then

3276
02:11:58,709 --> 02:11:56,239
um

3277
02:12:00,550 --> 02:11:58,719
also some experiences i've had over the

3278
02:12:03,750 --> 02:12:00,560
last few years is being

3279
02:12:07,030 --> 02:12:03,760
taken on ship to help the children

3280
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:07,040
whose parents refuse to bond

3281
02:12:12,629 --> 02:12:10,400
um and so i i am asked to

3282
02:12:13,430 --> 02:12:12,639
hold and play and cuddle and you know

3283
02:12:16,629 --> 02:12:13,440
just

3284
02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:16,639
do some loving motherly bonding with

3285
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:20,480
these um these hybrid newborns that are

3286
02:12:27,430 --> 02:12:21,040
not

3287
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:27,440
these are conscious events

3288
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:30,960
incredible

3289
02:12:38,229 --> 02:12:34,159
okay um help me understand

3290
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:38,239
here are these children

3291
02:12:44,550 --> 02:12:42,400
then are they living on earth

3292
02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:44,560
not as far as i can they're they're on

3293
02:12:49,270 --> 02:12:45,760
the ships right

3294
02:12:51,189 --> 02:12:49,280
yeah yeah um could they

3295
02:12:53,910 --> 02:12:51,199
what do they look like could they pass

3296
02:12:57,189 --> 02:12:53,920
for humans

3297
02:12:59,109 --> 02:12:57,199
they just have an

3298
02:13:00,470 --> 02:12:59,119
unusually large eyes their heads are a

3299
02:13:01,430 --> 02:13:00,480
little bit bigger and their bodies are

3300
02:13:05,109 --> 02:13:01,440
just a little bit

3301
02:13:07,109 --> 02:13:05,119
thinner and then some of them very much

3302
02:13:09,030 --> 02:13:07,119
not human looking at all so i just i

3303
02:13:11,830 --> 02:13:09,040
think it depends on the

3304
02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:11,840
on the child itself and perhaps the

3305
02:13:16,629 --> 02:13:13,360
genetic makeup

3306
02:13:17,589 --> 02:13:16,639
um where does where does the male side

3307
02:13:22,709 --> 02:13:17,599
come from

3308
02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:26,550
no i have not seen a triangle head

3309
02:13:30,950 --> 02:13:29,440
um you don't have any triangle head

3310
02:13:33,510 --> 02:13:30,960
children

3311
02:13:34,790 --> 02:13:33,520
not that i have met okay that's good

3312
02:13:37,750 --> 02:13:34,800
that's good that's good

3313
02:13:38,390 --> 02:13:37,760
right there was there and really it

3314
02:13:40,390 --> 02:13:38,400
makes me

3315
02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:40,400
wonder because there was a particular

3316
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:42,239
experience that i had

3317
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:44,800
again in 2018 so much happened to me in

3318
02:13:49,750 --> 02:13:46,159
2018 as far as

3319
02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:49,760
um my comprehension and understanding of

3320
02:13:53,510 --> 02:13:51,280
of the phenomenon that's happening

3321
02:13:56,390 --> 02:13:53,520
around me i was

3322
02:13:58,229 --> 02:13:56,400
um in bed i was married at the time we

3323
02:13:59,669 --> 02:13:58,239
were newlyweds i think was just a few

3324
02:14:02,709 --> 02:13:59,679
months that we had been married

3325
02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:05,430
i was dreaming i was in a haunted house

3326
02:14:08,390 --> 02:14:06,079
which isn't

3327
02:14:09,510 --> 02:14:08,400
necessarily uncommon for me but i woke

3328
02:14:12,870 --> 02:14:09,520
up as the covers were

3329
02:14:14,390 --> 02:14:12,880
yanked off of me and i thought it was it

3330
02:14:16,069 --> 02:14:14,400
woke me up especially because

3331
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:16,079
the covers were ripped away from my

3332
02:14:18,229 --> 02:14:17,679
husband not towards my husband he was a

3333
02:14:20,709 --> 02:14:18,239
blanket

3334
02:14:21,910 --> 02:14:20,719
hog so it wasn't him it was something

3335
02:14:24,550 --> 02:14:21,920
else and i

3336
02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:24,560
and i woke up and there were several

3337
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:27,199
beings in the room

3338
02:14:30,950 --> 02:14:29,280
oh you know what i'm mixing things up so

3339
02:14:32,229 --> 02:14:30,960
so this was one experience that happened

3340
02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:32,239
and i think it was just a couple nights

3341
02:14:36,629 --> 02:14:34,159
later that i had this experience

3342
02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:36,639
with my husband in the bed but um

3343
02:14:40,470 --> 02:14:38,320
there's three beings in the room since i

3344
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:40,480
started the story i might as well finish

3345
02:14:44,870 --> 02:14:41,119
it

3346
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:44,880
being that i remembered as a child

3347
02:14:52,149 --> 02:14:49,280
behind the podium was there um a gray

3348
02:14:52,830 --> 02:14:52,159
looking alien and then um this very

3349
02:14:55,750 --> 02:14:52,840
bizarre

3350
02:14:56,470 --> 02:14:55,760
drippy it looked like a candle that was

3351
02:14:58,390 --> 02:14:56,480
melting

3352
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:58,400
it was a dark brown color being i've

3353
02:15:01,589 --> 02:15:00,560
never seen anything like this i've only

3354
02:15:05,350 --> 02:15:01,599
heard

3355
02:15:07,510 --> 02:15:05,360
him in some book but i've never been

3356
02:15:09,430 --> 02:15:07,520
able to find any description of this

3357
02:15:12,470 --> 02:15:09,440
type of being

3358
02:15:14,870 --> 02:15:12,480
anywhere and um

3359
02:15:16,709 --> 02:15:14,880
one of the most amazing thing about that

3360
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:16,719
particular experience is

3361
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:18,800
recognizing the the tall white and

3362
02:15:22,629 --> 02:15:20,320
saying oh it's you

3363
02:15:24,149 --> 02:15:22,639
and he's like well yeah he kind of just

3364
02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:24,159
nodded his head at me and reached out

3365
02:15:29,910 --> 02:15:24,960
his hand and i

3366
02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:29,920
and i took it and left willingly and um

3367
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:33,199
and then i was taken on the ship and i

3368
02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:36,800
found myself in a very large like um

3369
02:15:39,830 --> 02:15:39,040
almost like a theater there was a stage

3370
02:15:42,950 --> 02:15:39,840
and and

3371
02:15:46,310 --> 02:15:42,960
tears of and rows of of

3372
02:15:49,830 --> 02:15:46,320
humans just in these balconies um

3373
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:49,840
chatting and recognizing each other and

3374
02:15:53,270 --> 02:15:50,560
um

3375
02:15:55,270 --> 02:15:53,280
i remember just the massive amount of

3376
02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:55,280
people and all of the ages and all of

3377
02:15:58,870 --> 02:15:56,719
the races and

3378
02:16:00,229 --> 02:15:58,880
and all different attire daytime sleep

3379
02:16:02,709 --> 02:16:00,239
time you know it didn't matter

3380
02:16:05,189 --> 02:16:02,719
and and that's about all i remember from

3381
02:16:06,950 --> 02:16:05,199
that experience but a huge number of

3382
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:06,960
humans in the room like hundreds

3383
02:16:10,550 --> 02:16:09,199
of of people and gathered into this room

3384
02:16:13,669 --> 02:16:10,560
for whatever reason

3385
02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:13,679
um but back to the experience with the

3386
02:16:19,430 --> 02:16:16,960
the hybrid child i was

3387
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:19,440
i remember having what appeared to be a

3388
02:16:24,629 --> 02:16:21,280
dream and being alone

3389
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:24,639
in a ship type ex place and crawling

3390
02:16:27,750 --> 02:16:25,119
into

3391
02:16:29,270 --> 02:16:27,760
a big tub it's like a big stainless

3392
02:16:29,669 --> 02:16:29,280
steel tub and i'm like i know what this

3393
02:16:33,669 --> 02:16:29,679
is for

3394
02:16:35,349 --> 02:16:33,679
and i gave birth to a boy a baby boy all

3395
02:16:38,870 --> 02:16:35,359
by myself it seemed in this

3396
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:38,880
in this tub and it was um he felt really

3397
02:16:44,150 --> 02:16:40,880
large like a really big baby

3398
02:16:45,990 --> 02:16:44,160
and i named him wesley bertrand

3399
02:16:48,150 --> 02:16:46,000
not a name i would ever chose for a

3400
02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:48,160
child ever i don't know

3401
02:16:52,790 --> 02:16:51,120
but um and then i i remember waking up

3402
02:16:54,469 --> 02:16:52,800
and reaching my hand over to wake my

3403
02:16:57,030 --> 02:16:54,479
husband up

3404
02:16:58,629 --> 02:16:57,040
and i felt like there was this something

3405
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:58,639
cold on the bed and and i

3406
02:17:03,349 --> 02:17:00,639
and i reached it and it was a business

3407
02:17:05,669 --> 02:17:03,359
card right and i had started

3408
02:17:06,870 --> 02:17:05,679
years before an experience or support

3409
02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:06,880
group you know it

3410
02:17:10,150 --> 02:17:08,719
never went anywhere i think there's like

3411
02:17:12,549 --> 02:17:10,160
seven or eight of us and we

3412
02:17:14,070 --> 02:17:12,559
occasionally we'll talk on facebook but

3413
02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:14,080
it was one of my business cards from

3414
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:15,040
that and i thought

3415
02:17:21,030 --> 02:17:19,120
what the heck oh you jerks you know

3416
02:17:23,509 --> 02:17:21,040
like thanks you left a calling card to

3417
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:23,519
tell me this was not just a dream

3418
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:25,679
um at which you know as i'm cussing i

3419
02:17:29,030 --> 02:17:27,280
wake my husband up and he's like oh my

3420
02:17:29,349 --> 02:17:29,040
god i just had this crazy dream that i

3421
02:17:39,910 --> 02:17:29,359
was

3422
02:17:43,589 --> 02:17:39,920
son

3423
02:17:45,830 --> 02:17:43,599
and he said this he said this

3424
02:17:47,669 --> 02:17:45,840
as i wake up from this dream

3425
02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:47,679
quote-unquote dream

3426
02:17:51,270 --> 02:17:49,840
with the experiencer support group in

3427
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:51,280
between us

3428
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:53,599
and i was like son of a gun how how

3429
02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:54,960
could we both have that

3430
02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:57,840
on the same night and it was a boy i

3431
02:18:03,830 --> 02:17:59,760
mean it was a boy in both instances

3432
02:18:05,750 --> 02:18:03,840
um so i you know it just it just makes

3433
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:05,760
you wonder okay so if it's

3434
02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:08,800
my dna and his dna what the heck is

3435
02:18:11,669 --> 02:18:09,519
happening

3436
02:18:12,549 --> 02:18:11,679
however one thing i do know is his

3437
02:18:17,910 --> 02:18:12,559
family has

3438
02:18:21,349 --> 02:18:19,750
we can suspect his mother but we don't

3439
02:18:23,910 --> 02:18:21,359
know for sure but himself

3440
02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:23,920
his sister and his sister's children

3441
02:18:26,230 --> 02:18:25,439
have all had contact so that's two

3442
02:18:29,429 --> 02:18:26,240
generations

3443
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:29,439
and so i can you know maybe shouldn't

3444
02:18:33,349 --> 02:18:29,760
but

3445
02:18:36,070 --> 02:18:33,359
can possibly assume going back

3446
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:36,080
you know that's incredible that's

3447
02:18:40,150 --> 02:18:36,960
incredible

3448
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:40,160
um did he continue to have

3449
02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:44,319
these these dreams or these experiences

3450
02:18:47,429 --> 02:18:46,160
he really shut down and didn't like to

3451
02:18:51,190 --> 02:18:47,439
talk about it right

3452
02:18:52,950 --> 02:18:51,200
right yeah so i don't know

3453
02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:52,960
and if i would have an experience and

3454
02:18:56,709 --> 02:18:54,559
say hey you were involved

3455
02:18:58,070 --> 02:18:56,719
he would negate it like now now nothing

3456
02:18:59,750 --> 02:18:58,080
happened you're just crazy and i'm like

3457
02:19:01,509 --> 02:18:59,760
no no no i'm not

3458
02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:01,519
do not negate my experiences just

3459
02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:03,120
because you don't want to face it

3460
02:19:06,389 --> 02:19:05,280
and so i mean that's i think very

3461
02:19:08,389 --> 02:19:06,399
typical i mean

3462
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:08,399
all of us who are having these

3463
02:19:11,589 --> 02:19:09,599
experiences are much

3464
02:19:13,589 --> 02:19:11,599
in a much different place along the

3465
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:13,599
process of understanding and accepting

3466
02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:15,359
and then being okay with things

3467
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:18,240
i'm definitely much further along than

3468
02:19:20,389 --> 02:19:18,800
he is

3469
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:20,399
or was you know i haven't talked to him

3470
02:19:25,429 --> 02:19:22,160
in many months but

3471
02:19:28,870 --> 02:19:25,439
yeah now um you

3472
02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:28,880
have uh uh told us about

3473
02:19:35,190 --> 02:19:32,479
the female uh type gray

3474
02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:35,200
uh the tall white the gentleman behind

3475
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:36,719
the podium right

3476
02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:39,840
um are they

3477
02:19:43,589 --> 02:19:41,920
are they how do i say this are they from

3478
02:19:46,309 --> 02:19:43,599
the same star system

3479
02:19:47,669 --> 02:19:46,319
is this the same group they're on the

3480
02:19:50,870 --> 02:19:47,679
same ship

3481
02:19:52,150 --> 02:19:50,880
and they're constantly visiting you know

3482
02:19:55,349 --> 02:19:52,160
planet earth for

3483
02:19:55,910 --> 02:19:55,359
for deca are they going back uh to their

3484
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:55,920
planet

3485
02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:59,120
no honestly i don't know i don't know

3486
02:20:02,070 --> 02:20:00,399
where they're from i don't know who

3487
02:20:05,110 --> 02:20:02,080
they're affiliated with uh

3488
02:20:05,990 --> 02:20:05,120
oftentimes there are mixes of types of

3489
02:20:07,910 --> 02:20:06,000
beings

3490
02:20:10,230 --> 02:20:07,920
i mean that when i was seven it was

3491
02:20:13,270 --> 02:20:10,240
those gray types

3492
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:13,280
with you know mr triangle head um then

3493
02:20:16,630 --> 02:20:13,920
there's

3494
02:20:17,270 --> 02:20:16,640
you know there were gray types with the

3495
02:20:19,990 --> 02:20:17,280
tall

3496
02:20:21,429 --> 02:20:20,000
white um and then that one night in my

3497
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:21,439
bedroom there's the tall white the gray

3498
02:20:26,230 --> 02:20:22,880
type and the drippy weird guy

3499
02:20:28,070 --> 02:20:26,240
um that i don't understand so

3500
02:20:30,389 --> 02:20:28,080
i don't know are they working together

3501
02:20:33,110 --> 02:20:30,399
are they just different versions of them

3502
02:20:34,150 --> 02:20:33,120
of you know different i i don't know i

3503
02:20:37,190 --> 02:20:34,160
don't have

3504
02:20:40,710 --> 02:20:37,200
have you been able to ask

3505
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:43,990
very rarely am i able to ask questions

3506
02:20:48,469 --> 02:20:47,600
um and i think when i'm in the middle of

3507
02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:48,479
an experience

3508
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:50,880
the questions don't even come to mind

3509
02:20:54,070 --> 02:20:51,680
and so

3510
02:20:55,270 --> 02:20:54,080
you know doing radio shows and podcasts

3511
02:20:58,150 --> 02:20:55,280
and things i've been told

3512
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:58,160
keep a notebook by your bed pick it up

3513
02:21:01,349 --> 02:20:59,040
remember

3514
02:21:03,110 --> 02:21:01,359
but i'm not necessarily sure i'm ever in

3515
02:21:03,990 --> 02:21:03,120
a state of mind when i can say oh hold

3516
02:21:06,230 --> 02:21:04,000
on let me

3517
02:21:07,670 --> 02:21:06,240
let me get this real quick can we just

3518
02:21:09,030 --> 02:21:07,680
let's have let's have a little bit of an

3519
02:21:11,510 --> 02:21:09,040
interview here i don't i don't

3520
02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:11,520
think i've ever been in that state of

3521
02:21:16,630 --> 02:21:13,600
mind when i can do that

3522
02:21:17,590 --> 02:21:16,640
i i mean the the ques if you get another

3523
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:17,600
opportunity

3524
02:21:21,830 --> 02:21:20,010
okay here's the jimmy church list right

3525
02:21:27,030 --> 02:21:21,840
[Laughter]

3526
02:21:32,230 --> 02:21:30,070
how far do you travel

3527
02:21:35,349 --> 02:21:32,240
to get here you know i don't know if you

3528
02:21:37,349 --> 02:21:35,359
can ask about a star system because

3529
02:21:38,950 --> 02:21:37,359
they wouldn't necessarily be able to

3530
02:21:42,469 --> 02:21:38,960
relate

3531
02:21:43,910 --> 02:21:42,479
to our distances of times and names of

3532
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:43,920
things because

3533
02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:46,800
we have uh a different language here but

3534
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:47,359
right

3535
02:21:50,950 --> 02:21:49,520
you know how far are they traveling how

3536
02:21:51,910 --> 02:21:50,960
long do they travel are they traveling

3537
02:21:53,830 --> 02:21:51,920
at the speed of light

3538
02:21:55,750 --> 02:21:53,840
how are they getting here you know

3539
02:21:56,469 --> 02:21:55,760
that's like one of the first questions i

3540
02:21:58,870 --> 02:21:56,479
would try

3541
02:22:01,349 --> 02:21:58,880
and ask and the other one is what what

3542
02:22:03,190 --> 02:22:01,359
is it that you guys are doing

3543
02:22:06,070 --> 02:22:03,200
you know what what is it what's the

3544
02:22:09,190 --> 02:22:06,080
purpose of of you visiting

3545
02:22:12,790 --> 02:22:09,200
and and having children with

3546
02:22:15,990 --> 02:22:12,800
with with us what's the reason for that

3547
02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:16,000
right that is definitely like number one

3548
02:22:20,150 --> 02:22:18,960
a priori what what is going on why are

3549
02:22:21,830 --> 02:22:20,160
you messing with us what's going you

3550
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:21,840
know what's the purpose here what's your

3551
02:22:24,710 --> 02:22:22,880
purpose here

3552
02:22:26,469 --> 02:22:24,720
the only thing i've been able to figure

3553
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:26,479
out and this is just you know plain to

3554
02:22:28,870 --> 02:22:27,570
do saying taking

3555
02:22:30,389 --> 02:22:28,880
[Music]

3556
02:22:32,150 --> 02:22:30,399
you know the information i have from

3557
02:22:34,790 --> 02:22:32,160
many different experiencers

3558
02:22:35,750 --> 02:22:34,800
uh coming from what their messages are

3559
02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:35,760
upon

3560
02:22:42,070 --> 02:22:40,080
things is like okay so

3561
02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:42,080
what i know is they're telling me this

3562
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:44,000
you know and there's several different

3563
02:22:49,349 --> 02:22:46,240
themes that have come out of

3564
02:22:50,870 --> 02:22:49,359
of what experiencers have to tell the

3565
02:22:53,429 --> 02:22:50,880
world number one

3566
02:22:55,349 --> 02:22:53,439
take care of the planet that's a big one

3567
02:22:56,150 --> 02:22:55,359
like there's natural disasters going to

3568
02:22:57,830 --> 02:22:56,160
happen

3569
02:22:59,750 --> 02:22:57,840
there's going to be nuclear war we've

3570
02:23:01,670 --> 02:22:59,760
got to be careful and protect the planet

3571
02:23:02,230 --> 02:23:01,680
the next is you know love thy neighbor

3572
02:23:04,150 --> 02:23:02,240
basically

3573
02:23:05,590 --> 02:23:04,160
no more wars you've got to be kind to

3574
02:23:07,429 --> 02:23:05,600
each other you've got to work together

3575
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:07,439
and and those are

3576
02:23:11,349 --> 02:23:10,000
those are the themes that really come

3577
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:11,359
out of contact when you

3578
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:14,080
when you um boil it all down and my

3579
02:23:16,630 --> 02:23:14,720
thought is

3580
02:23:18,230 --> 02:23:16,640
if those are the main messages that are

3581
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:18,240
coming out

3582
02:23:21,590 --> 02:23:20,000
take care of the planet take care of

3583
02:23:24,150 --> 02:23:21,600
each other don't

3584
02:23:26,710 --> 02:23:24,160
wage war especially in a nuclear-type

3585
02:23:28,469 --> 02:23:26,720
fashion how is this bad

3586
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:28,479
yeah yeah we'll talk about more about

3587
02:23:33,030 --> 02:23:30,479
this after the break because i find that

3588
02:23:34,790 --> 02:23:33,040
very very interesting

3589
02:23:36,950 --> 02:23:34,800
and it's a subject that needs to be

3590
02:23:41,030 --> 02:23:36,960
discussed more and more

3591
02:23:44,830 --> 02:23:41,040
but i wanted to ask you this it appears

3592
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:44,840
if if these aliens

3593
02:23:50,389 --> 02:23:47,680
are walking earth like in your bedroom

3594
02:23:51,990 --> 02:23:50,399
they can breathe oxygen you when you

3595
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:52,000
were on the ship

3596
02:23:56,309 --> 02:23:54,720
you could breathe right and so could

3597
02:23:59,150 --> 02:23:56,319
everybody else

3598
02:24:00,389 --> 02:23:59,160
so apparently on the they must be a

3599
02:24:03,590 --> 02:24:00,399
carbon-based

3600
02:24:06,710 --> 02:24:03,600
life form that breathes

3601
02:24:07,990 --> 02:24:06,720
oxygen and nitrogen like we do here and

3602
02:24:09,990 --> 02:24:08,000
that must be the same

3603
02:24:11,270 --> 02:24:10,000
on their home world have you thought

3604
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:11,280
about that that

3605
02:24:14,630 --> 02:24:13,280
they are able to breathe and walk among

3606
02:24:16,469 --> 02:24:14,640
us

3607
02:24:18,070 --> 02:24:16,479
it it definitely makes you wonder and

3608
02:24:20,710 --> 02:24:18,080
then i've i've had a lot of

3609
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:20,720
you know speculation are they in suits

3610
02:24:23,990 --> 02:24:22,720
are they wearing a full body suit and we

3611
02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:24,000
just can't tell

3612
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:26,560
um a lot of my thoughts when it comes to

3613
02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:27,200
these things

3614
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:28,960
is i don't necessarily think it's

3615
02:24:31,270 --> 02:24:30,240
interplanetary

3616
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:31,280
i really don't i think it's

3617
02:24:35,400 --> 02:24:33,520
interdimensional

3618
02:24:36,550 --> 02:24:35,410
which negates time and space

3619
02:24:38,469 --> 02:24:36,560
[Music]

3620
02:24:39,830 --> 02:24:38,479
and and i you know definitely don't

3621
02:24:42,550 --> 02:24:39,840
understand the

3622
02:24:44,150 --> 02:24:42,560
content of the air unless they just

3623
02:24:47,670 --> 02:24:44,160
don't even need to breathe

3624
02:24:49,349 --> 02:24:47,680
who knows well did the air

3625
02:24:51,910 --> 02:24:49,359
feel weird to you did you have

3626
02:24:53,990 --> 02:24:51,920
difficulty breathing

3627
02:24:55,830 --> 02:24:54,000
i do not remember having any difficulty

3628
02:24:58,469 --> 02:24:55,840
breathing in any of these

3629
02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:58,479
experiences yeah yeah it's very

3630
02:25:02,550 --> 02:24:59,520
interesting

3631
02:25:03,910 --> 02:25:02,560
um now uh really quick before we get to

3632
02:25:05,349 --> 02:25:03,920
the break i want to go back to this

3633
02:25:08,469 --> 02:25:05,359
military dude

3634
02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:08,479
was that the only time that uh you

3635
02:25:14,710 --> 02:25:11,760
saw what appeared to be right

3636
02:25:15,270 --> 02:25:14,720
right a military officer was at one time

3637
02:25:18,550 --> 02:25:15,280
not on

3638
02:25:20,070 --> 02:25:18,560
any of the ships i do not remember

3639
02:25:23,910 --> 02:25:20,080
seeing any military

3640
02:25:26,309 --> 02:25:23,920
beings or humans on ship the only other

3641
02:25:30,070 --> 02:25:26,319
humans i see on ship appear to be other

3642
02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:30,080
contact days or experiencers the um

3643
02:25:33,830 --> 02:25:33,280
uh the human uh the military guy that

3644
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:33,840
you saw

3645
02:25:42,710 --> 02:25:40,710
no but he heard you

3646
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:42,720
he heard me glanced at me and then

3647
02:25:47,510 --> 02:25:44,800
quickly glass way

3648
02:25:48,469 --> 02:25:47,520
right right did did he did you see him

3649
02:25:52,710 --> 02:25:48,479
speaking to

3650
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:52,720
anybody else not that i recall

3651
02:25:56,630 --> 02:25:56,160
no yeah yeah i'm just wondering if he

3652
02:26:00,150 --> 02:25:56,640
was

3653
02:26:01,590 --> 02:26:00,160
indeed human the fatigues with a coat

3654
02:26:05,110 --> 02:26:01,600
over the top of it

3655
02:26:07,429 --> 02:26:05,120
is a very interesting uh description

3656
02:26:09,429 --> 02:26:07,439
there could be he could have been a

3657
02:26:11,510 --> 02:26:09,439
facsimile

3658
02:26:13,030 --> 02:26:11,520
right yeah that's absolutely true it

3659
02:26:13,590 --> 02:26:13,040
could have been some sort of screaming

3660
02:26:16,870 --> 02:26:13,600
image

3661
02:26:19,270 --> 02:26:16,880
you never know did um

3662
02:26:19,990 --> 02:26:19,280
was there any i want to get this last

3663
02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:20,000
question in before

3664
02:26:23,670 --> 02:26:21,840
the break because we're going to change

3665
02:26:26,790 --> 02:26:23,680
gears when we come back

3666
02:26:29,990 --> 02:26:26,800
um was there any education

3667
02:26:31,030 --> 02:26:30,000
processes you know like with the

3668
02:26:33,349 --> 02:26:31,040
children

3669
02:26:35,590 --> 02:26:33,359
were you shown anything were the

3670
02:26:38,550 --> 02:26:35,600
children being taught

3671
02:26:39,990 --> 02:26:38,560
uh things you know historical records or

3672
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:40,000
the future or

3673
02:26:45,590 --> 02:26:43,040
anything like that um yeah

3674
02:26:47,590 --> 02:26:45,600
i i still am taught things and what i'm

3675
02:26:49,270 --> 02:26:47,600
taught about a lot is a

3676
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:49,280
very much on the level of quantum

3677
02:26:53,030 --> 02:26:50,640
physics which i have

3678
02:26:53,750 --> 02:26:53,040
you know no scientific knowledge about

3679
02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:53,760
but uh

3680
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:56,160
like what like quantum entanglement how

3681
02:27:01,910 --> 02:26:57,120
can i

3682
02:27:03,750 --> 02:27:01,920
without being anywhere near them but be

3683
02:27:06,710 --> 02:27:03,760
able to get the message to them

3684
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:06,720
telepathy you know that kind of thing

3685
02:27:10,270 --> 02:27:08,080
and then how

3686
02:27:11,429 --> 02:27:10,280
how souls work and the

3687
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:11,439
interdimensionality

3688
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:14,640
of of different selves so when you were

3689
02:27:17,590 --> 02:27:15,520
talking about

3690
02:27:18,870 --> 02:27:17,600
the room and and yourself being there

3691
02:27:20,950 --> 02:27:18,880
and being able to reach out and touch

3692
02:27:22,870 --> 02:27:20,960
yourself in many different ways

3693
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:22,880
that is something that they've actually

3694
02:27:28,469 --> 02:27:25,200
shown me and taught me in my mind

3695
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:28,479
can't quite understand all of it but um

3696
02:27:31,510 --> 02:27:30,640
i mean that that topic right there could

3697
02:27:34,550 --> 02:27:31,520
be a whole show

3698
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:34,560
in and of itself fascinating how do you

3699
02:27:41,590 --> 02:27:37,600
when you say inter-dimensional is that

3700
02:27:44,309 --> 02:27:41,600
how uh i'm assuming that you're

3701
02:27:44,630 --> 02:27:44,319
theorizing on this it's a hypothetical

3702
02:27:48,070 --> 02:27:44,640
but

3703
02:27:51,110 --> 02:27:48,080
is this how they span uh these

3704
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:51,120
great distances they're not necessarily

3705
02:27:55,510 --> 02:27:54,000
traveling in a linear sense they're

3706
02:27:58,950 --> 02:27:55,520
appearing

3707
02:28:02,309 --> 02:27:58,960
need to be

3708
02:28:04,070 --> 02:28:02,319
exactly exactly so when you

3709
02:28:05,349 --> 02:28:04,080
when you asked those particular

3710
02:28:07,830 --> 02:28:05,359
questions there was two

3711
02:28:08,469 --> 02:28:07,840
that you asked i can't remember each one

3712
02:28:10,070 --> 02:28:08,479
of them but

3713
02:28:12,710 --> 02:28:10,080
one of them was how do they travel from

3714
02:28:14,469 --> 02:28:12,720
here to here to there or there to here

3715
02:28:15,910 --> 02:28:14,479
and how fast and you know is it the

3716
02:28:18,469 --> 02:28:15,920
speed of light the answer

3717
02:28:20,230 --> 02:28:18,479
came into my head was it's irrelevant

3718
02:28:21,110 --> 02:28:20,240
that's what i heard in my head when he

3719
02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:21,120
would ask that

3720
02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:24,160
it's irrelevant it doesn't matter just

3721
02:28:27,510 --> 02:28:26,080
are you saying that's a memory that's

3722
02:28:29,429 --> 02:28:27,520
telling you it's irrelevant or

3723
02:28:31,910 --> 02:28:29,439
somebody's speaking to you right now

3724
02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:31,920
saying it's irrelevant which makes me

3725
02:28:35,750 --> 02:28:33,760
sound even crazier doesn't it yeah yeah

3726
02:28:37,650 --> 02:28:35,760
you're paul's words in my head you're

3727
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:37,660
just straight bonkers

3728
02:28:48,950 --> 02:28:45,270
and it is okay it has to be

3729
02:28:52,150 --> 02:28:48,960
that way though aaron and let me

3730
02:28:55,270 --> 02:28:52,160
explain why with the 60 seconds

3731
02:28:57,670 --> 02:28:55,280
that uh we have before the break

3732
02:28:58,870 --> 02:28:57,680
if you're out there somewhere in the

3733
02:29:01,990 --> 02:28:58,880
universe

3734
02:29:05,670 --> 02:29:02,000
and you are 100

3735
02:29:10,070 --> 02:29:05,680
000 light years from your home planet

3736
02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:10,080
you're not sending out a radio call

3737
02:29:13,750 --> 02:29:12,800
checking in it would take a hundred

3738
02:29:16,550 --> 02:29:13,760
thousand years

3739
02:29:17,510 --> 02:29:16,560
for that signal to get to the no no

3740
02:29:21,270 --> 02:29:17,520
that's not that's

3741
02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:21,280
not how it's done it's got to be done

3742
02:29:25,190 --> 02:29:23,920
now and it has to be done with some form

3743
02:29:28,230 --> 02:29:25,200
of entanglement

3744
02:29:29,910 --> 02:29:28,240
it has to if you and i go four and a

3745
02:29:31,510 --> 02:29:29,920
half light years away to proxima

3746
02:29:35,030 --> 02:29:31,520
centauri on a spaceship and

3747
02:29:37,990 --> 02:29:35,040
and we blow a tire and we need to let

3748
02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:38,000
you know a 9-1-1 call break off to earth

3749
02:29:40,309 --> 02:29:39,280
they're not going to get it for four and

3750
02:29:43,670 --> 02:29:40,319
a half years

3751
02:29:46,630 --> 02:29:43,680
that doesn't that doesn't do us any good

3752
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:46,640
right it would be four and a half years

3753
02:29:50,230 --> 02:29:47,920
after that

3754
02:29:52,630 --> 02:29:50,240
it would be nine years before we got

3755
02:29:56,150 --> 02:29:52,640
9-1-1 with your emergency

3756
02:29:59,110 --> 02:29:56,160
right it doesn't work that way it can't

3757
02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:59,120
there has to be something that is in the

3758
02:30:01,750 --> 02:30:00,720
time of now

3759
02:30:04,630 --> 02:30:01,760
and that's exactly and that's

3760
02:30:06,070 --> 02:30:04,640
entanglement so i'm okay with that

3761
02:30:07,670 --> 02:30:06,080
so keep doing what you're doing let's

3762
02:30:09,349 --> 02:30:07,680
take our break right here

3763
02:30:11,349 --> 02:30:09,359
this is fade to black i'm yours jimmy

3764
02:30:14,309 --> 02:30:11,359
church i guess aaron montgomery

3765
02:30:16,630 --> 02:30:14,319
this is overtime coming up next and you

3766
02:30:19,510 --> 02:30:16,640
know what we do when we get to overtime

3767
02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:19,520
we uh start to have a little fun so

3768
02:30:22,630 --> 02:30:20,880
we're gonna do that next

3769
02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:22,640
and i'm your host jimmy church this is

3770
02:30:25,030 --> 02:30:24,160
fade to black and the game changer

3771
02:30:27,990 --> 02:30:25,040
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3772
02:30:33,270 --> 02:30:28,000
and kgra the planet stay with us we'll

3773
02:30:44,830 --> 02:30:33,280
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3774
02:30:51,349 --> 02:30:47,440
yes

3775
02:30:53,750 --> 02:30:51,359
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3776
02:30:55,670 --> 02:30:53,760
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3777
02:31:00,870 --> 02:30:55,680
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3778
02:31:04,150 --> 02:31:00,880
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3779
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3780
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3845
02:34:06,160 --> 02:34:22,540
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3846
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[Music]

3847
02:34:30,870 --> 02:34:28,160
welcome back fade to black i'm yours

3848
02:34:33,910 --> 02:34:30,880
jimmy church my guitar just had a baby

3849
02:34:33,920 --> 02:34:37,990
it's a baby guitar

3850
02:34:41,590 --> 02:34:40,150
i'm just having some fun it's overtime

3851
02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:41,600
this is fade to black i'm real super

3852
02:34:46,070 --> 02:34:42,960
church our guest tonight

3853
02:34:48,309 --> 02:34:46,080
aaron montgomery and uh and now aaron

3854
02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:48,319
we've got a bunch of stuff i want to uh

3855
02:34:52,309 --> 02:34:49,840
talk about really quick

3856
02:34:53,670 --> 02:34:52,319
but one question just popped up in

3857
02:34:56,870 --> 02:34:53,680
twitter

3858
02:34:59,990 --> 02:34:56,880
i'm i'm right with this how do

3859
02:35:04,230 --> 02:35:00,000
we accept a message of

3860
02:35:07,750 --> 02:35:04,240
love and light and unicorns from e.t

3861
02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:07,760
who are here abducting humans

3862
02:35:13,990 --> 02:35:10,960
and having their way uh and

3863
02:35:16,870 --> 02:35:14,000
and and and and babies

3864
02:35:17,349 --> 02:35:16,880
right that's a conflicting situation

3865
02:35:21,349 --> 02:35:17,359
here

3866
02:35:23,910 --> 02:35:21,359
shooting us with lasers

3867
02:35:25,510 --> 02:35:23,920
but the love and light and then

3868
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:25,520
abductions

3869
02:35:29,510 --> 02:35:28,560
kind of rub against each other they

3870
02:35:32,150 --> 02:35:29,520
definitely do

3871
02:35:32,550 --> 02:35:32,160
i'm not saying this is easy by any means

3872
02:35:35,670 --> 02:35:32,560
um

3873
02:35:38,150 --> 02:35:35,680
and oftentimes i can uh categorize my

3874
02:35:40,150 --> 02:35:38,160
experiences in several different ways i

3875
02:35:41,270 --> 02:35:40,160
have ones that are very loving and and

3876
02:35:44,870 --> 02:35:41,280
kind

3877
02:35:46,710 --> 02:35:44,880
being taught things

3878
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:46,720
are very different than you know say

3879
02:35:53,349 --> 02:35:49,920
when i was seven and i was scared

3880
02:35:55,830 --> 02:35:53,359
um but i it wasn't necessarily bad um

3881
02:35:57,670 --> 02:35:55,840
yeah i was being chipped or whatever but

3882
02:35:58,630 --> 02:35:57,680
their their intention was not to scare

3883
02:35:59,990 --> 02:35:58,640
me or hurt me

3884
02:36:01,750 --> 02:36:00,000
and then i had the awful thing that

3885
02:36:03,349 --> 02:36:01,760
happened in the underground

3886
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:03,359
and that was just horrible and different

3887
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:05,200
and yucky but

3888
02:36:11,270 --> 02:36:09,280
i think that a lot of a lot of the

3889
02:36:12,710 --> 02:36:11,280
the confusion and the dichotomy comes

3890
02:36:15,670 --> 02:36:12,720
from um is

3891
02:36:17,670 --> 02:36:15,680
coming from a fear base and we cannot

3892
02:36:21,030 --> 02:36:17,680
clearly communicate with these beings

3893
02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:21,040
until we get to a state of complete calm

3894
02:36:25,510 --> 02:36:23,680
so that we can and so we can say hey you

3895
02:36:27,510 --> 02:36:25,520
know what's going on why are you here

3896
02:36:28,870 --> 02:36:27,520
and then until we can reach that kind of

3897
02:36:30,550 --> 02:36:28,880
state we're not gonna

3898
02:36:31,910 --> 02:36:30,560
ever really know and i think that even

3899
02:36:33,750 --> 02:36:31,920
though i try and try

3900
02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:33,760
to get there i'm certainly not there yet

3901
02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:35,520
yeah because i don't have it all

3902
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:38,560
yeah you know yeah yeah i hear you and

3903
02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:41,600
uh my normal response to

3904
02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:45,040
somebody that has that kind of

3905
02:36:51,510 --> 02:36:48,080
question which is legitimate

3906
02:36:56,150 --> 02:36:51,520
fair enough but look what

3907
02:37:01,030 --> 02:36:56,160
we do we go into

3908
02:37:04,469 --> 02:37:01,040
a jungle find a species that we've

3909
02:37:07,670 --> 02:37:04,479
just discovered grab it

3910
02:37:09,349 --> 02:37:07,680
take it away from their family throw it

3911
02:37:13,030 --> 02:37:09,359
in a box

3912
02:37:16,830 --> 02:37:13,040
bring it back and dissect it

3913
02:37:19,990 --> 02:37:16,840
right it's like where's the compassion

3914
02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:20,000
there where's the where's the moral

3915
02:37:24,389 --> 02:37:21,120
standards

3916
02:37:26,469 --> 02:37:24,399
there well and we we just assume

3917
02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:26,479
that that's uh you know it's part of

3918
02:37:29,429 --> 02:37:28,000
science it's what we've got to do we've

3919
02:37:32,550 --> 02:37:29,439
got to evolve we've got to

3920
02:37:35,910 --> 02:37:32,560
you know wait a minute here you know

3921
02:37:38,469 --> 02:37:35,920
so with e.t doing these kinds of things

3922
02:37:39,670 --> 02:37:38,479
i don't think they're that extreme when

3923
02:37:41,830 --> 02:37:39,680
we consider what

3924
02:37:42,710 --> 02:37:41,840
what we do every single day on this

3925
02:37:45,910 --> 02:37:42,720
planet to

3926
02:37:47,670 --> 02:37:45,920
to species and animals right and i think

3927
02:37:49,429 --> 02:37:47,680
that you know if we go back to the idea

3928
02:37:51,429 --> 02:37:49,439
of the evolution of how contact has

3929
02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:51,439
happened from the violence you know and

3930
02:37:54,389 --> 02:37:52,399
the scary

3931
02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:54,399
really awful things that happened back

3932
02:37:59,510 --> 02:37:57,280
in the 50s and 60s

3933
02:38:01,110 --> 02:37:59,520
and then you start to hear things like

3934
02:38:02,870 --> 02:38:01,120
screen images you know there have been

3935
02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:02,880
times when i have seen things that were

3936
02:38:06,550 --> 02:38:03,760
not

3937
02:38:07,030 --> 02:38:06,560
you know scary et's there's just one

3938
02:38:09,429 --> 02:38:07,040
very

3939
02:38:10,790 --> 02:38:09,439
silly ex you know time that i woke up

3940
02:38:11,990 --> 02:38:10,800
and it was the golden girls at the end

3941
02:38:14,230 --> 02:38:12,000
of my bed

3942
02:38:15,750 --> 02:38:14,240
um and i was able to laugh at it because

3943
02:38:17,670 --> 02:38:15,760
i knew that that's what

3944
02:38:18,950 --> 02:38:17,680
they weren't that was the golden girls

3945
02:38:19,670 --> 02:38:18,960
were not at the end of my bed i knew it

3946
02:38:22,469 --> 02:38:19,680
was et's

3947
02:38:23,030 --> 02:38:22,479
no betty white is an alien okay let's

3948
02:38:25,910 --> 02:38:23,040
just

3949
02:38:27,429 --> 02:38:25,920
stop right there we can all agree the

3950
02:38:30,710 --> 02:38:27,439
golden girls

3951
02:38:31,190 --> 02:38:30,720
yeah wow that was an image at least and

3952
02:38:32,710 --> 02:38:31,200
from my

3953
02:38:34,710 --> 02:38:32,720
understanding it's an image that they

3954
02:38:36,870 --> 02:38:34,720
knew would not frighten me right

3955
02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:36,880
of course they were waking me up and i

3956
02:38:40,950 --> 02:38:38,640
and i just thought it was silly and

3957
02:38:42,389 --> 02:38:40,960
and i did not get afraid and of course i

3958
02:38:44,150 --> 02:38:42,399
don't remember anything after that i

3959
02:38:47,270 --> 02:38:44,160
just like oh my gosh really guys

3960
02:38:48,070 --> 02:38:47,280
and then i kind of faded out but they're

3961
02:38:50,150 --> 02:38:48,080
you know they're

3962
02:38:52,550 --> 02:38:50,160
they're doing things to help preserve

3963
02:38:55,590 --> 02:38:52,560
our minds in whatever way they can

3964
02:38:56,950 --> 02:38:55,600
and that seems to be my understanding of

3965
02:38:59,830 --> 02:38:56,960
things at this point is they

3966
02:39:00,630 --> 02:38:59,840
they don't want to hurt us um at least

3967
02:39:02,309 --> 02:39:00,640
you know

3968
02:39:04,070 --> 02:39:02,319
these experiences that i'm having with

3969
02:39:06,790 --> 02:39:04,080
these entities

3970
02:39:08,630 --> 02:39:06,800
at this time even if babies are involved

3971
02:39:12,550 --> 02:39:08,640
i am not afraid

3972
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:12,560
i am not hurt and you know and i come

3973
02:39:15,590 --> 02:39:13,600
out with um

3974
02:39:16,870 --> 02:39:15,600
with information on on quantum physics

3975
02:39:17,990 --> 02:39:16,880
that there's no way i could really

3976
02:39:19,670 --> 02:39:18,000
understand and i

3977
02:39:21,429 --> 02:39:19,680
can't even articulate it really because

3978
02:39:22,150 --> 02:39:21,439
i don't have that uh the scientific

3979
02:39:25,110 --> 02:39:22,160
backing to

3980
02:39:25,429 --> 02:39:25,120
sure for it to make sense but it's there

3981
02:39:28,150 --> 02:39:25,439
right

3982
02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:28,160
um and but then in comparison to the

3983
02:39:32,630 --> 02:39:30,160
experience i had underground with the

3984
02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:32,640
excruciating pain and the fear and and

3985
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:35,120
and the no comfort so i mean there's

3986
02:39:37,750 --> 02:39:36,800
something happening here where they're

3987
02:39:39,030 --> 02:39:37,760
trying

3988
02:39:40,790 --> 02:39:39,040
and that's what i'm seeing is that

3989
02:39:42,790 --> 02:39:40,800
they're trying they're trying to keep us

3990
02:39:43,910 --> 02:39:42,800
safe they're trying to keep us calm and

3991
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:43,920
they're doing it

3992
02:39:48,710 --> 02:39:46,800
in whatever fashion that they think is

3993
02:39:51,190 --> 02:39:48,720
working and i think that that is their

3994
02:39:52,950 --> 02:39:51,200
evolution as you can see

3995
02:39:54,389 --> 02:39:52,960
the how things have changed over the

3996
02:39:56,550 --> 02:39:54,399
decades in their

3997
02:39:57,910 --> 02:39:56,560
approach to us and how they do their

3998
02:40:01,190 --> 02:39:57,920
best to

3999
02:40:03,590 --> 02:40:01,200
not hurt us hurt our minds in

4000
02:40:04,950 --> 02:40:03,600
especially yeah dude with the clipboard

4001
02:40:07,030 --> 02:40:04,960
could have said

4002
02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:07,040
it'll be over in a minute it's okay

4003
02:40:11,750 --> 02:40:08,399
you'll be fine

4004
02:40:14,870 --> 02:40:11,760
then walk away right but

4005
02:40:18,630 --> 02:40:14,880
at least at least to tell me something

4006
02:40:21,349 --> 02:40:18,640
right okay now uh what

4007
02:40:23,110 --> 02:40:21,359
what is going on what is going on what's

4008
02:40:25,030 --> 02:40:23,120
going on today we have our government

4009
02:40:27,030 --> 02:40:25,040
talking to us about ufos apparently

4010
02:40:29,110 --> 02:40:27,040
we've got the navy

4011
02:40:30,950 --> 02:40:29,120
apparently shooting videos and releasing

4012
02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:30,960
videos we've got the senate talking

4013
02:40:34,950 --> 02:40:32,800
about it we've got the uap

4014
02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:34,960
task force report that's coming out i'm

4015
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:38,080
waiting for biden's statement on ufos

4016
02:40:41,269 --> 02:40:40,240
uh that's is probably going to come

4017
02:40:43,429 --> 02:40:41,279
pretty soon

4018
02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:43,439
we have all these experiences coming

4019
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:46,720
forward like never before

4020
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:50,000
we have sightings today that we've never

4021
02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:51,040
had be

4022
02:40:57,910 --> 02:40:54,240
right now this is ufo mania

4023
02:41:00,710 --> 02:40:57,920
what what's going on i i'm not

4024
02:41:01,429 --> 02:41:00,720
exactly sure where everything is going

4025
02:41:04,710 --> 02:41:01,439
but i do

4026
02:41:07,510 --> 02:41:04,720
know that in 2018 there was a huge push

4027
02:41:09,269 --> 02:41:07,520
um this is where you know several people

4028
02:41:11,190 --> 02:41:09,279
were already publishing this is when i

4029
02:41:11,590 --> 02:41:11,200
decided i needed to publish and all of a

4030
02:41:14,230 --> 02:41:11,600
sudden

4031
02:41:14,950 --> 02:41:14,240
it it's like in our heads we have to

4032
02:41:17,750 --> 02:41:14,960
talk

4033
02:41:20,230 --> 02:41:17,760
and it's just a it's like a compulsion

4034
02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:20,240
as far as being an experiencer and and

4035
02:41:24,790 --> 02:41:22,960
it and it really has gone out and even

4036
02:41:26,309 --> 02:41:24,800
after the book is published and after i

4037
02:41:28,150 --> 02:41:26,319
start doing shows it's just i have to

4038
02:41:30,150 --> 02:41:28,160
talk more i have to say more i have to

4039
02:41:32,230 --> 02:41:30,160
connect with as many people as possible

4040
02:41:33,830 --> 02:41:32,240
and it it can get overwhelming but i

4041
02:41:35,269 --> 02:41:33,840
know that i am not the only one that is

4042
02:41:37,510 --> 02:41:35,279
feeling this

4043
02:41:38,870 --> 02:41:37,520
several of us experiences are feeling

4044
02:41:40,630 --> 02:41:38,880
the same way and i think it's

4045
02:41:42,230 --> 02:41:40,640
very interesting that the government

4046
02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:42,240
seems to be

4047
02:41:46,870 --> 02:41:44,640
pushing at the same time uh it also

4048
02:41:49,830 --> 02:41:46,880
makes me nervous

4049
02:41:50,710 --> 02:41:49,840
and the question is the question is why

4050
02:41:55,910 --> 02:41:50,720
and

4051
02:41:58,309 --> 02:41:55,920
good idea

4052
02:42:00,150 --> 02:41:58,319
but let me let's we we've talked about

4053
02:42:01,110 --> 02:42:00,160
physics and science a couple of times

4054
02:42:03,190 --> 02:42:01,120
tonight

4055
02:42:05,110 --> 02:42:03,200
it's not just the government it's not

4056
02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:05,120
just experiencers

4057
02:42:08,950 --> 02:42:07,840
but it's astrophysicists and astronomers

4058
02:42:11,349 --> 02:42:08,960
and physicists and

4059
02:42:13,349 --> 02:42:11,359
exoplanets and fast radio bursts in the

4060
02:42:15,269 --> 02:42:13,359
search for alien life and everything

4061
02:42:18,150 --> 02:42:15,279
that is going on daily

4062
02:42:19,590 --> 02:42:18,160
in the science community the multiverse

4063
02:42:21,750 --> 02:42:19,600
parallel world

4064
02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:21,760
it's a crazy talk coming from the

4065
02:42:26,469 --> 02:42:23,680
science community right now

4066
02:42:27,269 --> 02:42:26,479
but we are being bombarded on every

4067
02:42:29,910 --> 02:42:27,279
front

4068
02:42:30,469 --> 02:42:29,920
about aliens and then you have the mass

4069
02:42:33,670 --> 02:42:30,479
media

4070
02:42:34,870 --> 02:42:33,680
jumping in uh with this as well all at

4071
02:42:36,309 --> 02:42:34,880
the same time

4072
02:42:38,790 --> 02:42:36,319
it seems to me that somebody knows

4073
02:42:40,950 --> 02:42:38,800
something somewhere that it's about to

4074
02:42:43,510 --> 02:42:40,960
jump off and they're

4075
02:42:44,309 --> 02:42:43,520
they're getting planet earth acclimated

4076
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:44,319
to this idea

4077
02:42:48,309 --> 02:42:46,960
we just had a people of earth one of the

4078
02:42:51,110 --> 02:42:48,319
greatest tv series

4079
02:42:51,990 --> 02:42:51,120
ever in the history of everything that's

4080
02:42:55,269 --> 02:42:52,000
part of it too

4081
02:42:57,030 --> 02:42:55,279
in my eyes i think so and i i have been

4082
02:42:58,550 --> 02:42:57,040
actually kind of tracking that over the

4083
02:43:01,429 --> 02:42:58,560
last few years so

4084
02:43:01,910 --> 02:43:01,439
many movies are coming out and have come

4085
02:43:04,870 --> 02:43:01,920
out

4086
02:43:07,750 --> 02:43:04,880
i remember watching a commercial the

4087
02:43:09,990 --> 02:43:07,760
other day that had nothing to do with

4088
02:43:11,750 --> 02:43:10,000
i think it was like a target ad or

4089
02:43:13,349 --> 02:43:11,760
something and it was little kids

4090
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:13,359
getting ready for school and there's a

4091
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:15,120
freaking alien in the classroom i'm like

4092
02:43:20,150 --> 02:43:15,520
look

4093
02:43:21,190 --> 02:43:20,160
gonna make people okay with what's about

4094
02:43:23,830 --> 02:43:21,200
to happen

4095
02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:23,840
but to show things like this um the

4096
02:43:29,750 --> 02:43:25,120
movie

4097
02:43:31,990 --> 02:43:29,760
um arrival that came out in um

4098
02:43:32,870 --> 02:43:32,000
i don't remember what year was 23 yeah

4099
02:43:35,510 --> 02:43:32,880
three years ago

4100
02:43:36,070 --> 02:43:35,520
four years ago yeah to me i felt that

4101
02:43:39,910 --> 02:43:36,080
that was

4102
02:43:41,349 --> 02:43:39,920
very purposely done um i remember going

4103
02:43:42,550 --> 02:43:41,359
to the theater and my husband at the

4104
02:43:44,309 --> 02:43:42,560
time saying oh this is just going to be

4105
02:43:45,750 --> 02:43:44,319
a shoot em up movie and i i looked at

4106
02:43:48,230 --> 02:43:45,760
the date

4107
02:43:49,349 --> 02:43:48,240
that of the release date and it was 11

4108
02:43:52,389 --> 02:43:49,359
11 which

4109
02:43:53,750 --> 02:43:52,399
in a spiritual realm that's a very

4110
02:43:56,469 --> 02:43:53,760
significant

4111
02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:56,479
message meaning now is the time and so

4112
02:44:01,030 --> 02:43:59,040
if you've got a movie being released

4113
02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:01,040
on the day that now is the time and it's

4114
02:44:04,550 --> 02:44:03,040
about the arrival of alien beings and

4115
02:44:06,230 --> 02:44:04,560
how to learn to communicate in a

4116
02:44:08,389 --> 02:44:06,240
different fashion

4117
02:44:09,670 --> 02:44:08,399
which interestingly enough is outside of

4118
02:44:12,710 --> 02:44:09,680
time

4119
02:44:16,389 --> 02:44:12,720
which puts you into that quantum realm

4120
02:44:19,269 --> 02:44:16,399
um yeah it just i mean there's hints and

4121
02:44:20,070 --> 02:44:19,279
and messages everywhere and you can

4122
02:44:21,429 --> 02:44:20,080
either

4123
02:44:22,790 --> 02:44:21,439
listen to them and gather them up or you

4124
02:44:23,510 --> 02:44:22,800
can say it's all just coincidence and

4125
02:44:27,110 --> 02:44:23,520
ridiculous

4126
02:44:28,550 --> 02:44:27,120
i remember uh watching arrival in the

4127
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:28,560
theaters

4128
02:44:34,550 --> 02:44:31,680
and i i left

4129
02:44:35,429 --> 02:44:34,560
and all i could i was a bit traumatized

4130
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:35,439
actually

4131
02:44:39,190 --> 02:44:38,000
with it i was like that was made for a

4132
02:44:42,790 --> 02:44:39,200
reason

4133
02:44:43,190 --> 02:44:42,800
that's not just some film that just got

4134
02:44:46,469 --> 02:44:43,200
me

4135
02:44:49,030 --> 02:44:46,479
that has got a lot of

4136
02:44:49,590 --> 02:44:49,040
information in it there's a lot of

4137
02:44:52,469 --> 02:44:49,600
things

4138
02:44:54,950 --> 02:44:52,479
going down there and i have said i've

4139
02:44:56,469 --> 02:44:54,960
watched it probably 50 times i watch it

4140
02:45:00,710 --> 02:44:56,479
all the time

4141
02:45:03,510 --> 02:45:00,720
and there is something about that movie

4142
02:45:04,469 --> 02:45:03,520
um that was deliberate i don't think

4143
02:45:06,309 --> 02:45:04,479
that's it

4144
02:45:07,990 --> 02:45:06,319
yeah yeah i don't think it was just some

4145
02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:08,000
hollywood production and a great

4146
02:45:14,550 --> 02:45:11,760
team of writers uh there was too

4147
02:45:15,990 --> 02:45:14,560
much going on it wasn't a science

4148
02:45:19,030 --> 02:45:16,000
fiction movie

4149
02:45:21,269 --> 02:45:19,040
it wasn't it was like a documentary

4150
02:45:22,309 --> 02:45:21,279
right it's actually based on a short

4151
02:45:26,830 --> 02:45:22,319
story um

4152
02:45:30,150 --> 02:45:26,840
by a guy named ted chang c-h-i-a-n-g

4153
02:45:31,510 --> 02:45:30,160
um this is this this is the story of me

4154
02:45:33,349 --> 02:45:31,520
or something i don't remember the title

4155
02:45:35,670 --> 02:45:33,359
i have to look it up but um

4156
02:45:38,230 --> 02:45:35,680
i read it i read the story after seeing

4157
02:45:41,910 --> 02:45:38,240
the movie and it just

4158
02:45:42,630 --> 02:45:41,920
impacted me all that much more um from

4159
02:45:45,030 --> 02:45:42,640
you know i

4160
02:45:46,309 --> 02:45:45,040
as i was watching the film and

4161
02:45:47,990 --> 02:45:46,319
understanding there really is a

4162
02:45:49,670 --> 02:45:48,000
political stint in there

4163
02:45:51,110 --> 02:45:49,680
um you know how we all have to

4164
02:45:52,389 --> 02:45:51,120
communicate together we have to work

4165
02:45:54,550 --> 02:45:52,399
together to be able to communicate with

4166
02:45:56,630 --> 02:45:54,560
this alien species

4167
02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:56,640
who has a completely different

4168
02:45:59,830 --> 02:45:58,000
understanding of time

4169
02:46:01,269 --> 02:45:59,840
like there is no time they they think in

4170
02:46:04,389 --> 02:46:01,279
whole concepts not in

4171
02:46:05,750 --> 02:46:04,399
any linear fashion um which really is

4172
02:46:07,750 --> 02:46:05,760
quite the information that i received

4173
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:07,760
from the ets now as everything's out of

4174
02:46:12,790 --> 02:46:09,040
time there is no

4175
02:46:15,750 --> 02:46:12,800
then and now it's all now um but

4176
02:46:16,710 --> 02:46:15,760
yeah reading that book just made it so

4177
02:46:19,269 --> 02:46:16,720
much more clear

4178
02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:19,279
and so i i definitely recommend reading

4179
02:46:23,670 --> 02:46:20,560
that short story as well

4180
02:46:25,590 --> 02:46:23,680
do you feel that these are the days of

4181
02:46:28,790 --> 02:46:25,600
disclosure which i've been saying

4182
02:46:32,469 --> 02:46:28,800
days of disclosure now for four years

4183
02:46:34,870 --> 02:46:32,479
but uh it feels different to me

4184
02:46:36,469 --> 02:46:34,880
is do you think that we're in those days

4185
02:46:37,670 --> 02:46:36,479
do you think that something is imminent

4186
02:46:41,510 --> 02:46:37,680
with the senate and

4187
02:46:43,670 --> 02:46:41,520
in this report i think that we very much

4188
02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:43,680
are in the days of disclosure and i

4189
02:46:47,349 --> 02:46:45,439
think that a lot of it is

4190
02:46:49,429 --> 02:46:47,359
it's coming from more fronts than just

4191
02:46:50,469 --> 02:46:49,439
the government as as people are assuming

4192
02:46:52,150 --> 02:46:50,479
that it would come from like the

4193
02:46:52,950 --> 02:46:52,160
government's going to have big press

4194
02:46:53,910 --> 02:46:52,960
conference

4195
02:46:54,950 --> 02:46:53,920
they're going to come forward and

4196
02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:54,960
they're going to say something i'm not

4197
02:46:56,950 --> 02:46:56,240
necessarily sure it's going to happen

4198
02:46:58,950 --> 02:46:56,960
that way

4199
02:47:00,070 --> 02:46:58,960
but what it is is going to come through

4200
02:47:01,990 --> 02:47:00,080
media

4201
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:02,000
normalizing is going to come from all of

4202
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:03,600
us experiences coming out and saying no

4203
02:47:06,469 --> 02:47:05,200
this really is happening

4204
02:47:08,230 --> 02:47:06,479
and yeah i may sound crazy but i'm

4205
02:47:09,990 --> 02:47:08,240
pretty sure i'm not you know

4206
02:47:11,670 --> 02:47:10,000
and many of us doing that at the same

4207
02:47:12,870 --> 02:47:11,680
time and then you've got that scientific

4208
02:47:13,510 --> 02:47:12,880
front that's coming in from the other

4209
02:47:15,750 --> 02:47:13,520
direction

4210
02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:15,760
it's almost like a perfect storm

4211
02:47:19,990 --> 02:47:17,600
disclosure is much

4212
02:47:21,750 --> 02:47:20,000
much more complicated and complex than

4213
02:47:24,389 --> 02:47:21,760
just

4214
02:47:25,830 --> 02:47:24,399
the press conference do you think uh do

4215
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:25,840
you think earth is ready

4216
02:47:31,030 --> 02:47:29,359
for for this information

4217
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:31,040
i mean is it going to be a total panic

4218
02:47:35,830 --> 02:47:32,640
meltdown i

4219
02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:35,840
if we go back to december of 2017 with

4220
02:47:41,349 --> 02:47:36,640
uh

4221
02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:41,359
times article

4222
02:47:49,269 --> 02:47:45,279
and and how the media treated it

4223
02:47:52,469 --> 02:47:49,279
i the earth handled it pretty well right

4224
02:47:55,030 --> 02:47:52,479
nothing nothing melted down

4225
02:47:56,230 --> 02:47:55,040
do you think that we're ready well that

4226
02:47:58,309 --> 02:47:56,240
didn't phase us that

4227
02:48:00,230 --> 02:47:58,319
that's for sure but then if you know you

4228
02:48:02,870 --> 02:48:00,240
know fast forward to

4229
02:48:05,269 --> 02:48:02,880
the end of 2019 beginning of 2020 and

4230
02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:05,279
then faced with the pandemic and

4231
02:48:08,389 --> 02:48:07,840
it was just all chaos and we're still

4232
02:48:11,990 --> 02:48:08,399
we're still

4233
02:48:13,670 --> 02:48:12,000
coming to terms with that um

4234
02:48:15,190 --> 02:48:13,680
if disclosure comes and we run out of

4235
02:48:16,389 --> 02:48:15,200
toilet paper again i'm not going to be a

4236
02:48:19,429 --> 02:48:16,399
very happy camper

4237
02:48:21,349 --> 02:48:19,439
no no but um i don't know i it's it's

4238
02:48:22,950 --> 02:48:21,359
almost

4239
02:48:24,870 --> 02:48:22,960
i don't know i don't know if we're ready

4240
02:48:26,630 --> 02:48:24,880
and and i i certainly hope so and i

4241
02:48:27,670 --> 02:48:26,640
think that all of this that's happening

4242
02:48:29,269 --> 02:48:27,680
right now

4243
02:48:30,950 --> 02:48:29,279
all the disclosure talk and all the

4244
02:48:33,269 --> 02:48:30,960
different fronts that it's coming from

4245
02:48:35,670 --> 02:48:33,279
hopefully is helping to prepare

4246
02:48:36,309 --> 02:48:35,680
you know the general public for yeah

4247
02:48:40,230 --> 02:48:36,319
this is

4248
02:48:43,990 --> 02:48:40,240
that the um

4249
02:48:47,349 --> 02:48:44,000
uh you know with uh contactees like

4250
02:48:48,630 --> 02:48:47,359
yourself and a possible hybridization

4251
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:48,640
program

4252
02:48:54,790 --> 02:48:51,840
uh ongoing on this planet

4253
02:48:56,150 --> 02:48:54,800
that is something that the government is

4254
02:48:59,349 --> 02:48:56,160
going to have to answer for

4255
02:48:59,830 --> 02:48:59,359
is that something that will be uh spoken

4256
02:49:01,910 --> 02:48:59,840
about

4257
02:49:03,670 --> 02:49:01,920
i mean that's a difficult certainly i

4258
02:49:06,870 --> 02:49:03,680
certainly hope so

4259
02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:06,880
um i you know if

4260
02:49:11,590 --> 02:49:09,840
i have had these two much different

4261
02:49:13,830 --> 02:49:11,600
experiences you know

4262
02:49:15,590 --> 02:49:13,840
where i am on ship and there's babies

4263
02:49:17,190 --> 02:49:15,600
involved is a very loving and kind

4264
02:49:18,550 --> 02:49:17,200
environment but then there's that

4265
02:49:20,870 --> 02:49:18,560
thing that happened in the the

4266
02:49:22,389 --> 02:49:20,880
underground bunker and so why did that

4267
02:49:23,990 --> 02:49:22,399
have to be so bad and what did you do

4268
02:49:25,830 --> 02:49:24,000
with that child and did you know

4269
02:49:27,030 --> 02:49:25,840
that perhaps i was carrying one of these

4270
02:49:28,469 --> 02:49:27,040
and you took it

4271
02:49:30,950 --> 02:49:28,479
and if so what are you doing with all

4272
02:49:32,870 --> 02:49:30,960
those children that you're taking

4273
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:32,880
you know what what program have they

4274
02:49:37,349 --> 02:49:34,240
been put into

4275
02:49:37,670 --> 02:49:37,359
um super soldiers or you know all sorts

4276
02:49:41,269 --> 02:49:37,680
of

4277
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:41,279
with these fetuses that are taken

4278
02:49:45,750 --> 02:49:44,240
well yeah because and i'll tell you

4279
02:49:48,950 --> 02:49:45,760
there's always a but

4280
02:49:53,030 --> 02:49:48,960
right um it's

4281
02:49:56,550 --> 02:49:53,040
one thing for e.t to show up here

4282
02:49:59,830 --> 02:49:56,560
and have the big reveal

4283
02:50:00,790 --> 02:49:59,840
and a press conference and welcome our

4284
02:50:03,990 --> 02:50:00,800
space brothers

4285
02:50:05,030 --> 02:50:04,000
okay that that but if the government

4286
02:50:07,910 --> 02:50:05,040
then has to say

4287
02:50:08,469 --> 02:50:07,920
well we've known about this for a long

4288
02:50:12,790 --> 02:50:08,479
time

4289
02:50:16,150 --> 02:50:12,800
and and this is what has been going on

4290
02:50:18,550 --> 02:50:16,160
and the other secrecies that are there

4291
02:50:20,710 --> 02:50:18,560
and buried that's a whole other thing

4292
02:50:23,750 --> 02:50:20,720
for the government to deal with

4293
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:23,760
right right and i don't know

4294
02:50:26,790 --> 02:50:25,200
i really don't know how they're going to

4295
02:50:29,910 --> 02:50:26,800
approach that kind of thing

4296
02:50:32,389 --> 02:50:29,920
um you know there's the the potential

4297
02:50:34,630 --> 02:50:32,399
meeting with eisenhower i think at um

4298
02:50:35,830 --> 02:50:34,640
holloman air force base back in the 50s

4299
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:35,840
so what

4300
02:50:39,990 --> 02:50:38,319
what happened there and i've heard you

4301
02:50:43,030 --> 02:50:40,000
know

4302
02:50:45,670 --> 02:50:43,040
theories that perhaps in exchange for

4303
02:50:47,670 --> 02:50:45,680
technology they regained access to

4304
02:50:49,510 --> 02:50:47,680
humans for experimentation

4305
02:50:52,790 --> 02:50:49,520
you know is that what's going on i don't

4306
02:50:54,630 --> 02:50:52,800
know is it going to come to the surface

4307
02:50:55,830 --> 02:50:54,640
and i certainly hope it does but i don't

4308
02:50:56,950 --> 02:50:55,840
know you know i don't know

4309
02:50:58,710 --> 02:50:56,960
how that's going to impact the

4310
02:51:01,510 --> 02:50:58,720
government itself you know a

4311
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:01,520
hybridization program is one thing

4312
02:51:05,510 --> 02:51:04,240
people would probably get pretty upset

4313
02:51:07,349 --> 02:51:05,520
that that was going on and the

4314
02:51:10,550 --> 02:51:07,359
government knew about it and

4315
02:51:13,830 --> 02:51:10,560
and kept that secret okay but

4316
02:51:16,550 --> 02:51:13,840
if it's revealed that

4317
02:51:18,230 --> 02:51:16,560
the governments of the world had

4318
02:51:20,950 --> 02:51:18,240
knowledge of

4319
02:51:23,269 --> 02:51:20,960
free energy and that technology that

4320
02:51:26,469 --> 02:51:23,279
could have fed the planet

4321
02:51:29,990 --> 02:51:26,479
farming heated homes electricity

4322
02:51:33,030 --> 02:51:30,000
cars and that knowledge was

4323
02:51:34,950 --> 02:51:33,040
was held from us there's going to be a

4324
02:51:37,030 --> 02:51:34,960
lot of pissed off people

4325
02:51:38,469 --> 02:51:37,040
you know that that's a situation that

4326
02:51:41,349 --> 02:51:38,479
they would have to deal with

4327
02:51:41,830 --> 02:51:41,359
and i'm not so sure how how this gets

4328
02:51:45,429 --> 02:51:41,840
handled

4329
02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:45,439
and gets dealt with i i have no idea

4330
02:51:50,070 --> 02:51:48,640
i'm not sure and it actually produces

4331
02:51:51,269 --> 02:51:50,080
quite a bit of anxiety in my mind to

4332
02:51:52,389 --> 02:51:51,279
think how are the how are they gonna

4333
02:51:54,469 --> 02:51:52,399
handle it

4334
02:51:56,550 --> 02:51:54,479
how are they going to handle the chaos

4335
02:51:59,990 --> 02:51:56,560
that ensues from

4336
02:52:02,309 --> 02:52:00,000
their lack of uh

4337
02:52:04,309 --> 02:52:02,319
i don't know planning um for one thing

4338
02:52:06,070 --> 02:52:04,319
but um just that that

4339
02:52:07,590 --> 02:52:06,080
let's keep everybody in the dark for so

4340
02:52:11,190 --> 02:52:07,600
long and just exploit

4341
02:52:12,550 --> 02:52:11,200
and use and take and gain money and when

4342
02:52:13,990 --> 02:52:12,560
we didn't have to have any of those

4343
02:52:14,630 --> 02:52:14,000
things no didn't have to have any of

4344
02:52:17,110 --> 02:52:14,640
them

4345
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:17,120
and now there's another way to look at

4346
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:17,680
this

4347
02:52:21,990 --> 02:52:21,520
um you underground and what appears to

4348
02:52:25,429 --> 02:52:22,000
be

4349
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:25,439
a us military doctor there

4350
02:52:29,990 --> 02:52:28,960
with the clipboard is he part of the

4351
02:52:32,309 --> 02:52:30,000
program

4352
02:52:33,590 --> 02:52:32,319
and you know he's of the pentagon

4353
02:52:36,389 --> 02:52:33,600
pentagon is aware of this

4354
02:52:37,269 --> 02:52:36,399
this isn't the only underground facility

4355
02:52:41,030 --> 02:52:37,279
there must be

4356
02:52:44,550 --> 02:52:41,040
dozens or hundreds um or

4357
02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:44,560
is that guy a lone rogue agent

4358
02:52:48,550 --> 02:52:46,640
just working with the aliens and it's

4359
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:48,560
not a government program

4360
02:52:53,990 --> 02:52:52,080
and the aliens have their own bases and

4361
02:52:56,469 --> 02:52:54,000
and they're they've been doing their own

4362
02:53:01,429 --> 02:52:56,479
thing here for a long time and they just

4363
02:53:03,670 --> 02:53:01,439
uh recruited him to come in and assist

4364
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:03,680
well that very well could be that very

4365
02:53:08,150 --> 02:53:05,760
well could be i mean if i am taken on

4366
02:53:09,110 --> 02:53:08,160
ship to help babies that are not my own

4367
02:53:11,670 --> 02:53:09,120
who's to say

4368
02:53:12,469 --> 02:53:11,680
other other humans are not taken for

4369
02:53:15,750 --> 02:53:12,479
different jobs

4370
02:53:17,269 --> 02:53:15,760
which you know monitoring women who are

4371
02:53:19,429 --> 02:53:17,279
being um

4372
02:53:21,590 --> 02:53:19,439
harvested for lack of better terms why

4373
02:53:22,309 --> 02:53:21,600
not yeah that's the word i was looking

4374
02:53:26,070 --> 02:53:22,319
for

4375
02:53:29,429 --> 02:53:26,080
harvested and i mean how dark

4376
02:53:30,510 --> 02:53:29,439
ah tonight we harvest the more children

4377
02:53:32,469 --> 02:53:30,520
here we go

4378
02:53:36,230 --> 02:53:32,479
[Laughter]

4379
02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:36,240
harvested oh man okay

4380
02:53:39,349 --> 02:53:38,800
uh what a wonderful conversation tonight

4381
02:53:43,510 --> 02:53:39,359
um

4382
02:53:45,429 --> 02:53:43,520
you do uh you have uh a a podcast that

4383
02:53:48,710 --> 02:53:45,439
you do with terry lovelace

4384
02:53:52,070 --> 02:53:48,720
um how often uh do you guys get that

4385
02:53:55,349 --> 02:53:52,080
out on the air we are releasing one

4386
02:53:57,429 --> 02:53:55,359
episode every two weeks on a thursday

4387
02:53:58,870 --> 02:53:57,439
and how do you how do you handle that uh

4388
02:54:01,910 --> 02:53:58,880
is it based on

4389
02:54:03,910 --> 02:54:01,920
one subject is it the hybrid program uh

4390
02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:03,920
what do you guys talk about

4391
02:54:07,349 --> 02:54:05,680
um at this point we're just having a

4392
02:54:09,190 --> 02:54:07,359
guest and so whatever the guest is

4393
02:54:11,670 --> 02:54:09,200
bringing to the table and we cover

4394
02:54:12,870 --> 02:54:11,680
all sorts of topics from you know just

4395
02:54:16,550 --> 02:54:12,880
psychic abilities

4396
02:54:19,830 --> 02:54:16,560
to near-death experiences um

4397
02:54:20,870 --> 02:54:19,840
et contact um and then um you know one

4398
02:54:22,790 --> 02:54:20,880
of our most recent

4399
02:54:24,070 --> 02:54:22,800
guests was uh well annette that one

4400
02:54:25,910 --> 02:54:24,080
hasn't been released yet i guess it'll

4401
02:54:26,389 --> 02:54:25,920
be next thursday we'll come out and it's

4402
02:54:29,110 --> 02:54:26,399
about

4403
02:54:31,110 --> 02:54:29,120
being a walk-in what does it mean to be

4404
02:54:32,870 --> 02:54:31,120
a walk-in

4405
02:54:34,790 --> 02:54:32,880
that's uh that's another fascinating

4406
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:34,800
subject oh i wanted to ask you i don't

4407
02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:36,160
know how we got

4408
02:54:41,110 --> 02:54:37,840
uh blew past this what do you mean

4409
02:54:44,309 --> 02:54:43,269
well i don't know over the last few

4410
02:54:46,309 --> 02:54:44,319
months you know

4411
02:54:48,150 --> 02:54:46,319
starting this crazy thanksgiving that i

4412
02:54:49,429 --> 02:54:48,160
had with my dad here in colorado before

4413
02:54:52,070 --> 02:54:49,439
i moved

4414
02:54:53,030 --> 02:54:52,080
i actually had a dream that i was

4415
02:54:56,790 --> 02:54:53,040
introduced to

4416
02:54:58,790 --> 02:54:56,800
a bigfoot male he gave me his name and

4417
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:58,800
then he introduced me to his daughter

4418
02:55:01,870 --> 02:55:00,560
and ever since i've had these very

4419
02:55:03,910 --> 02:55:01,880
strange

4420
02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:03,920
experiences and there was one night i

4421
02:55:09,349 --> 02:55:04,880
got this

4422
02:55:12,469 --> 02:55:09,359
really creepy feeling

4423
02:55:15,030 --> 02:55:12,479
and i heard a whistle outside

4424
02:55:16,070 --> 02:55:15,040
my window and my house butted up against

4425
02:55:18,230 --> 02:55:16,080
the field there's nothing

4426
02:55:19,110 --> 02:55:18,240
behind my house and i hear a whistle

4427
02:55:22,150 --> 02:55:19,120
outside my

4428
02:55:23,990 --> 02:55:22,160
window a rock or something hit it and

4429
02:55:26,070 --> 02:55:24,000
then i heard a big scrape against the

4430
02:55:28,950 --> 02:55:26,080
side of the house and i'm like oh

4431
02:55:31,110 --> 02:55:28,960
okay bigfoot right outside i'm freaking

4432
02:55:32,150 --> 02:55:31,120
out and i did not sleep that night

4433
02:55:34,309 --> 02:55:32,160
but you know i don't know i could have

4434
02:55:36,389 --> 02:55:34,319
been just making that up footprints

4435
02:55:37,830 --> 02:55:36,399
did you go outside did you check it out

4436
02:55:39,110 --> 02:55:37,840
i was too scared no

4437
02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:39,120
i never went out there to look for

4438
02:55:43,269 --> 02:55:41,760
prince i wasn't even thinking along

4439
02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:43,279
those lines oh my goodness

4440
02:55:49,510 --> 02:55:46,399
i should have well i i feel

4441
02:55:52,630 --> 02:55:49,520
so many do there are some that don't

4442
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:52,640
okay let's we don't need that that

4443
02:55:55,670 --> 02:55:53,680
bigfoot may be

4444
02:55:57,910 --> 02:55:55,680
connected uh may also be

4445
02:55:59,349 --> 02:55:57,920
interdimensional that there may be a ufo

4446
02:56:02,070 --> 02:55:59,359
connection

4447
02:56:03,190 --> 02:56:02,080
e.t lands stairs come down it's bigfoot

4448
02:56:06,550 --> 02:56:03,200
that steps off

4449
02:56:09,750 --> 02:56:06,560
it it's been us all along um

4450
02:56:13,030 --> 02:56:09,760
you know the the the sightings uh

4451
02:56:16,389 --> 02:56:13,040
that happen uh not everyone but

4452
02:56:18,070 --> 02:56:16,399
so many um uh there's a sighting

4453
02:56:19,910 --> 02:56:18,080
and then there's a bigfoot sighting at

4454
02:56:20,710 --> 02:56:19,920
the same time two different groups of

4455
02:56:23,269 --> 02:56:20,720
people right

4456
02:56:25,710 --> 02:56:23,279
it's right it and and i think there's a

4457
02:56:27,590 --> 02:56:25,720
strong possibility that bigfoot may be

4458
02:56:28,870 --> 02:56:27,600
interdimensional i've had a few guests

4459
02:56:31,349 --> 02:56:28,880
on the show that

4460
02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:31,359
that have talked about this and i find

4461
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:34,000
that part fascinating and the only thing

4462
02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:37,439
um aaron for me this is just me

4463
02:56:45,110 --> 02:56:41,439
everybody but um no bodies

4464
02:56:48,150 --> 02:56:45,120
no dna no this no that

4465
02:56:52,389 --> 02:56:48,160
nothing well the only thing that

4466
02:56:55,429 --> 02:56:52,399
fixes that conundrum is interdimensional

4467
02:56:56,070 --> 02:56:55,439
right and and and i'm okay with that i'd

4468
02:56:59,110 --> 02:56:56,080
rather go

4469
02:57:02,550 --> 02:56:59,120
inter-dimensional on bigfoot then

4470
02:57:05,349 --> 02:57:02,560
it's a species just a normal species

4471
02:57:06,870 --> 02:57:05,359
walking the earth that we've just never

4472
02:57:10,309 --> 02:57:06,880
been able to locate and they

4473
02:57:11,590 --> 02:57:10,319
avoid humans okay all right well i mean

4474
02:57:14,870 --> 02:57:11,600
that works too

4475
02:57:17,990 --> 02:57:14,880
sort of but come on you know uh

4476
02:57:20,309 --> 02:57:18,000
hasn't been hit by a car yet a tour bus

4477
02:57:21,990 --> 02:57:20,319
full of people driving to vegas have

4478
02:57:25,429 --> 02:57:22,000
have not played you know on the way

4479
02:57:26,070 --> 02:57:25,439
to reno you know what is bigfoot that

4480
02:57:28,790 --> 02:57:26,080
clever

4481
02:57:29,910 --> 02:57:28,800
is is that possible or just

4482
02:57:33,110 --> 02:57:29,920
interdimensional

4483
02:57:35,030 --> 02:57:33,120
and that kind of fixes things for me

4484
02:57:36,309 --> 02:57:35,040
i think that i think interdimensional is

4485
02:57:38,630 --> 02:57:36,319
something that we really need to be

4486
02:57:41,910 --> 02:57:38,640
paying attention to right now

4487
02:57:42,790 --> 02:57:41,920
i know interdimensional people no i'm

4488
02:57:45,950 --> 02:57:42,800
kidding

4489
02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:45,960
aaron thank you so much your website is

4490
02:57:49,590 --> 02:57:48,080
airmontgomery.net how can everybody else

4491
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:49,600
reach out to you and i know that you do

4492
02:57:52,950 --> 02:57:50,080
a lot of

4493
02:57:54,950 --> 02:57:52,960
support as well uh you're a clinical

4494
02:57:56,630 --> 02:57:54,960
therapist and we need you

4495
02:57:58,469 --> 02:57:56,640
we need you in this community how can

4496
02:58:00,230 --> 02:57:58,479
people reach out to you

4497
02:58:01,990 --> 02:58:00,240
uh absolutely you can find me on

4498
02:58:03,429 --> 02:58:02,000
facebook i've got two different

4499
02:58:05,110 --> 02:58:03,439
i mean you can go through the dirty

4500
02:58:07,349 --> 02:58:05,120
little secret facebook

4501
02:58:08,950 --> 02:58:07,359
page um be careful with that there's a

4502
02:58:09,349 --> 02:58:08,960
couple of other dirty little secrets out

4503
02:58:11,190 --> 02:58:09,359
there

4504
02:58:13,349 --> 02:58:11,200
um you'll see my picture and know that

4505
02:58:14,469 --> 02:58:13,359
it's me send me a message through there

4506
02:58:17,670 --> 02:58:14,479
you can go through

4507
02:58:17,990 --> 02:58:17,680
um my website you can reach me through

4508
02:58:21,030 --> 02:58:18,000
that

4509
02:58:22,389 --> 02:58:21,040
there's a place to leave a message i

4510
02:58:24,469 --> 02:58:22,399
also have you know the

4511
02:58:25,870 --> 02:58:24,479
the facebook page related to the website

4512
02:58:29,190 --> 02:58:25,880
is aaron montgomery

4513
02:58:30,870 --> 02:58:29,200
multi-dimensional messenger so another

4514
02:58:32,670 --> 02:58:30,880
message can be left that way

4515
02:58:33,910 --> 02:58:32,680
i also do emails you can do

4516
02:58:37,750 --> 02:58:33,920
montgomery.erin

4517
02:58:40,389 --> 02:58:37,760
outlook outlook.com that works as well

4518
02:58:42,230 --> 02:58:40,399
have a great night thank you so much and

4519
02:58:43,349 --> 02:58:42,240
uh give my best to terry tell him i said

4520
02:58:47,030 --> 02:58:43,359
yo

4521
02:58:49,750 --> 02:58:47,040
much

4522
02:58:50,790 --> 02:58:49,760
i will have a great night aaron what a

4523
02:58:53,510 --> 02:58:50,800
great conversation

4524
02:58:55,110 --> 02:58:53,520
thank you absolutely incredible the

4525
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:55,120
facebook page related to the world

4526
02:58:58,830 --> 02:58:58,240
that's me i apologize everybody let me

4527
02:59:04,150 --> 02:58:58,840
do

4528
02:59:05,750 --> 02:59:04,160
is fade to black

4529
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:05,760
i've got to get out of here we just want

4530
02:59:09,550 --> 02:59:08,080
pulled a poll aaron montgomery

4531
02:59:11,469 --> 02:59:09,560
uh her links are over at

4532
02:59:14,070 --> 02:59:11,479
jimmychurchradio.com eric

4533
02:59:14,469 --> 02:59:14,080
montgomery.net and i've got another link

4534
02:59:17,830 --> 02:59:14,479
up

4535
02:59:19,910 --> 02:59:17,840
on the website for her books page

4536
02:59:21,910 --> 02:59:19,920
fade to black's executive producer is

4537
02:59:24,870 --> 02:59:21,920
rita kamarian

4538
02:59:26,630 --> 02:59:24,880
the show is produced by hill j palm

4539
02:59:28,870 --> 02:59:26,640
renee dennis and kevin

4540
02:59:30,950 --> 02:59:28,880
announcers are steve harder gene vettel

4541
02:59:31,349 --> 02:59:30,960
and mark d kobar webmaster is drew the

4542
02:59:34,910 --> 02:59:31,359
geek

4543
02:59:36,550 --> 02:59:34,920
music doug aldridge intro spaceboy

4544
02:59:38,710 --> 02:59:36,560
spaceboymusic.com

4545
02:59:40,469 --> 02:59:38,720
beta black is produced by kjcr for the

4546
02:59:41,670 --> 02:59:40,479
game changer network and syndication is

4547
02:59:43,830 --> 02:59:41,680
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4548
02:59:46,150 --> 02:59:43,840
the planet this broadcast owned a

4549
02:59:47,750 --> 02:59:46,160
copyrighted 2021 by fade to black in the

4550
02:59:49,590 --> 02:59:47,760
game changer network inc

4551
02:59:51,030 --> 02:59:49,600
it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

4552
02:59:51,830 --> 02:59:51,040
copied or used anywhere in the known

4553
02:59:53,429 --> 02:59:51,840
universe

4554
02:59:54,950 --> 02:59:53,439
without written permission from fade to

4555
02:59:56,150 --> 02:59:54,960
black of the game changer network i'm

4556
02:59:58,469 --> 02:59:56,160
your host jimmy church

4557
02:59:59,269 --> 02:59:58,479
tomorrow night right here dr steven

4558
03:00:01,190 --> 02:59:59,279
greer

4559
03:00:03,670 --> 03:00:01,200
want to thank aaron montgomery until

4560
03:00:10,450 --> 03:00:03,680
tomorrow night i want everybody to be